How letting go of Buddhism differ from the letting go of Taoism?
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Taoism "Letting go"
How "letting go" of Buddhism differ from the letting go of Taoism?
How "letting go" of Buddhism differ from the letting go of Taoism?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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I heard the following story many times but never understood its deeper meaning until now.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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Is there any source of "letting go" as a teaching of Gotama among English sutta translations?
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is letting go is voilitation activity or not?
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acc to buddha u let go because even if u hold to something u will lose it...SarathW wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:24 am How letting go of Buddhism differ from the letting go of Taoism?
Previous discussion on letting go.
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Taoism "Letting go"
but u dont have to let go immediatly, u can use it till it helps u
for example, i will use my car till it breaks down, i wont stop using car on the day of my purchase itself..
btw im not sure...
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I would have thought it was a translation of pajahati and similar, which are found throughout the suttas. The Forest Tradition and Ajahn Sumedho in particular have helped to popularise the term, but it's usually rendered as "abandons, gives up, relinquishes" etc. in the more popular translations.
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Sariputta advice to a dying Anathapindika:
"... householder, you should train yourself in this way: 'I won't cling to what is seen, heard, sensed, cognized, attained, sought after, pondered by the intellect; my consciousness will not be dependent on that.' That's how you should train yourself."
When this was said, Anathapindika the householder wept and shed tears... "
...not clinging to, abandoning, results in another kind of letting go...?
"... householder, you should train yourself in this way: 'I won't cling to what is seen, heard, sensed, cognized, attained, sought after, pondered by the intellect; my consciousness will not be dependent on that.' That's how you should train yourself."
When this was said, Anathapindika the householder wept and shed tears... "
...not clinging to, abandoning, results in another kind of letting go...?
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That's the decisive point. 'Not having settled down on anything' means there is nothing to let go. Teaching "letting go" therefore isn't appropriate.
If "abandons, gives up, relinquishes" refers to habits of 'settling down on' then that's appropriate and describes a release.
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n the Suttas paṭinissagga and its synonym vossagga are the words that usually get translated ‘relinquishment’, ‘letting go’ and suchlike. What is relinquished is appropriation (ādāna) which is a term for taṇhā and upādāna.
In what sense is vipassanā a power?
Through contemplation of impermanence vipassanā is unshakable by perception of permanence, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of pain it is unshakable by perception of pleasure, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of not-self it is unshakable by perception of self, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of dispassion it is unshakable by delight, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of fading away it is unshakable by greed, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of cessation it is unshakable by arising, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of relinquishment (paṭinissaggānupassanā) it is unshakable by appropriation (ādāna), thus vipassanā is a power.
It is unshakable, immovable and cannot be shifted by ignorance and by the defilements and aggregates that accompany ignorance, thus vipassanā is a power. This is vipassanā as a power.
(Paṭisambhidāmagga 99)
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In what sense is vipassanā a power?
Through contemplation of impermanence vipassanā is unshakable by perception of permanence, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of pain it is unshakable by perception of pleasure, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of not-self it is unshakable by perception of self, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of dispassion it is unshakable by delight, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of fading away it is unshakable by greed, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of cessation it is unshakable by arising, thus vipassanā is a power.
Through contemplation of relinquishment (paṭinissaggānupassanā) it is unshakable by appropriation (ādāna), thus vipassanā is a power.
It is unshakable, immovable and cannot be shifted by ignorance and by the defilements and aggregates that accompany ignorance, thus vipassanā is a power. This is vipassanā as a power.
(Paṭisambhidāmagga 99)
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Yes. 'Non-appropriation' seems to be an aspect of 'non-apprehension' which is the result of 'not settling down on'.SarathW wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:16 am n the Suttas paṭinissagga and its synonym vossagga are the words that usually get translated ‘relinquishment’, ‘letting go’ and suchlike. What is relinquished is appropriation (ādāna) which is a term for taṇhā and upādāna.
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thanks i understand what non aprrehension is...SteRo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:34 amYes. 'Non-appropriation' seems to be an aspect of 'non-apprehension' which is the result of 'not settling down on'.SarathW wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:16 am n the Suttas paṭinissagga and its synonym vossagga are the words that usually get translated ‘relinquishment’, ‘letting go’ and suchlike. What is relinquished is appropriation (ādāna) which is a term for taṇhā and upādāna.
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What is appropriation?SteRo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:34 amYes. 'Non-appropriation' seems to be an aspect of 'non-apprehension' which is the result of 'not settling down on'.SarathW wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:16 am n the Suttas paṭinissagga and its synonym vossagga are the words that usually get translated ‘relinquishment’, ‘letting go’ and suchlike. What is relinquished is appropriation (ādāna) which is a term for taṇhā and upādāna.
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Could you give me some examples in Buddhist context,please?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”