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Guided meditations for anicca, dukkha, anatta

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Hi.

I'm looking for good audio/video guided meditations that walk us through the process of contemplating impermanence, unsatisfactoriness, and not self. Between half hour and one hour for each of the three characteristics would be ideal. It can be using the 4 frames of reference, or the 5 khandas, or the 4 elements, or whatever framework for contemplation advised by the Buddha.

Thank you in advance.
"He turns his mind away from those phenomena and, having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.' " - Jhana Sutta
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There are many. But they deviate from the classical Theravada way.
Moreover some teachers inject some non-classical views into the student's mind in the disguise of vipassana in a subtle way while teaching.
(eg: skipping the parts like preconditions/contemplation on causes/classical order ..etc.)
So we are afraid of recommending/posting such material. (We don't oppose either.)
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You could just listen to SN22.59: https://suttacentral.net/sn22.59/ ...

I'm actually serious. This is one of those suttas that is essentially a guided mediation, though it would be better for the purpose if the text was fully expanded, as in the chanting books: https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0021.html

Some time ago one of my teachers led us through the sutta as a meditative dialogue, which was quite striking...

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One thing first for illustrative purposes
"'I tell you, the ending of the mental fermentations depends on the first jhana.' Thus it has been said. In reference to what was it said? There is the case where a monk, secluded from sensuality, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters & remains in the first jhana: rapture & pleasure born of seclusion, accompanied by directed thought & evaluation. He regards whatever phenomena there that are connected with form, feeling, perception, fabrications, & consciousness, as inconstant, stressful, a disease, a cancer, an arrow, painful, an affliction, alien, a disintegration, an emptiness, not-self. He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
Jhana Sutta
conviction has stress & suffering as its prerequisite, joy has conviction as its prerequisite, rapture has joy as its prerequisite, serenity has rapture as its prerequisite, pleasure has serenity as its prerequisite, concentration has pleasure as its prerequisite, knowledge & vision of things as they actually are present has concentration as its prerequisite, disenchantment has knowledge & vision of things as they actually are present as its prerequisite, dispassion has disenchantment as its prerequisite, release has dispassion as its prerequisite, knowledge of ending has release as its prerequisite."
So, the way to approach dukkha, anicca, and anatta is simply to develop samadhi. And samma samadhi is simply the four jhanas. And the act of understanding the skhandas in jhana number 1 (as illustrated above) amounts to the same as understanding the three marks.

I am going to go out on a limb in the near future. I believe I have developed my own meditative practice to the point where it is correct as far as transcendental dependent origination is concerned.

So, I have some videos that I’m going to post to YouTube and I’m prepared to show all of you my ugly mug. But, you have to look past my big shnoz and listen to the message.

Modus.Ponens. I can’t guarantee when that will happen and I will have to post the link into “Connections to other paths” because it involves chakras.

But, I will post at least three videos which outline the basic approach to meditation I take. We’ll see how well it does.
“Monk, the property of light, the property of beauty, the property of the dimension of the infinitude of space, the property of the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, the property of the dimension of nothingness: These properties are to be reached as perception attainments.[2] The property of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception is to be reached as a remnant-of-fabrications attainment. The property of the cessation of feeling & perception is to be reached as a cessation attainment."[3]

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Greetings,
mikenz66 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 am You could just listen to SN22.59: https://suttacentral.net/sn22.59/ ...

I'm actually serious.
Frankly, this is a brilliant suggestion. Listening, closed eyes to sutta, whilst contemplating what is said with reference to what is being experienced, so that it may be understood.

Magnificent. 😎👌

Metta,
Paul. :)
"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"Why now do you assume 'a being'? Mara, have you grasped a view?" (SN 5.10)

"Overcome the liar by truth." (Dhp 223)
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retrofuturist wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:37 am Magnificent. 😎👌
Thanks. Actually, the first three teachings (or at least the second and third, the first isn't so direct):
SN56.11 https://suttacentral.net/sn56.11 Rolling Forth the Wheel of Dhamma
sn22.59 https://suttacentral.net/sn22.59 The Characteristic of Nonself
SN35.28 https://suttacentral.net/sn35.28 Burning
would be quite suitable for that purpose.
However, what would be good would be a recording with the repetitions expanded, as in the chanting books:
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0020.html
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0021.html
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0022.html
Ironically, it's probably easier to find the unabridged versions chanted in Pali than in English, so perhaps the sensible approach is to memorise the Pali and English well enough to be able to follow along, and just listen to the Pali chanting...

The monks at my local monastery cycle through those, and other, suttas as part of their evening chanting routine. I gather that's quite standard. It must be helpful to have them memorised...

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Modus.Ponens wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:48 pm I'm looking for good audio/video guided meditations that walk us through the process of contemplating impermanence, unsatisfactoriness and not self.
If a guru was skilled in transmitting not-self to spiritually immature minds, they may cause psychosis in those spiritually immature minds.
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mikenz66 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:11 am ... to memorise the Pali and English well enough to be able to follow along, and just listen to the Pali chanting...
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mikenz66 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:11 am
retrofuturist wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:37 am Magnificent. 😎👌
Thanks. Actually, the first three teachings (or at least the second and third, the first isn't so direct):
SN56.11 https://suttacentral.net/sn56.11 Rolling Forth the Wheel of Dhamma
sn22.59 https://suttacentral.net/sn22.59 The Characteristic of Nonself
SN35.28 https://suttacentral.net/sn35.28 Burning
would be quite suitable for that purpose.
However, what would be good would be a recording with the repetitions expanded, as in the chanting books:
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0020.html
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0021.html
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0022.html
Ironically, it's probably easier to find the unabridged versions chanted in Pali than in English, so perhaps the sensible approach is to memorise the Pali and English well enough to be able to follow along, and just listen to the Pali chanting...

The monks at my local monastery cycle through those, and other, suttas as part of their evening chanting routine. I gather that's quite standard. It must be helpful to have them memorised...

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Mike
I was just listening to these links thanks!
Can we get them on sutta central without the english translation? It is great to listen to both but sometimes I prefer pali only..
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mikenz66 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:11 am
retrofuturist wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:37 am Magnificent. 😎👌
Thanks. Actually, the first three teachings (or at least the second and third, the first isn't so direct):
SN56.11 https://suttacentral.net/sn56.11 Rolling Forth the Wheel of Dhamma
sn22.59 https://suttacentral.net/sn22.59 The Characteristic of Nonself
SN35.28 https://suttacentral.net/sn35.28 Burning
would be quite suitable for that purpose.
However, what would be good would be a recording with the repetitions expanded, as in the chanting books:
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0020.html
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0021.html
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Chant ... n0022.html
Ironically, it's probably easier to find the unabridged versions chanted in Pali than in English, so perhaps the sensible approach is to memorise the Pali and English well enough to be able to follow along, and just listen to the Pali chanting...

The monks at my local monastery cycle through those, and other, suttas as part of their evening chanting routine. I gather that's quite standard. It must be helpful to have them memorised...

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Mike
Thank you for your suggestions, Mike. :anjali:
"He turns his mind away from those phenomena and, having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.' " - Jhana Sutta
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DooDoot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:24 am
Modus.Ponens wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:48 pm I'm looking for good audio/video guided meditations that walk us through the process of contemplating impermanence, unsatisfactoriness and not self.
If a guru was skilled in transmitting not-self to spiritually immature minds, they may cause psychosis in those spiritually immature minds.
:shrug:
"He turns his mind away from those phenomena and, having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.' " - Jhana Sutta
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I found an English reading of SN 22.59, Anattalakkhana Sutta, that doesn't skip the repetitions:
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I also found a pali chant from Amaravati:
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Thank you again, Mike. :anjali:
"He turns his mind away from those phenomena and, having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.' " - Jhana Sutta
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Modus.Ponens wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:31 am :shrug:
since there is no understanding of anatta (thus requiring a guided meditation), there is no understand of my post

anatta means is loss of self. a loss of self for immature minds is dukkha
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Girimānanda Sutta (AN 10.60) wrote: And what, Ānanda, is the perception of impermanence? Here, having gone to the forest, to the foot of a tree, or to an empty hut, a bhikkhu reflects thus: ‘Form is impermanent, feeling is impermanent, perception is impermanent, volitional activities are impermanent, consciousness is impermanent.’ Thus he dwells contemplating impermanence in these five aggregates subject to clinging. This is called the perception of impermanence.

And what, Ānanda, is the perception of non-self? Here, having gone to the forest, to the foot of a tree, or to an empty hut, a bhikkhu reflects thus: ‘The eye is non-self, forms are non-self; the ear is non-self, sounds are non-self; the nose is non-self, odors are non-self; the tongue is non-self, tastes are non-self; the body is non-self, tactile objects are non-self; the mind is non-self, mental phenomena are non-self.’ Thus he dwells contemplating non-self in these six internal and external sense bases. This is called the perception of non-self.
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Nicolas wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:27 pm
Girimānanda Sutta (AN 10.60) wrote: And what, Ānanda, is the perception of impermanence? Here, having gone to the forest, to the foot of a tree, or to an empty hut, a bhikkhu reflects thus: ‘Form is impermanent, feeling is impermanent, perception is impermanent, volitional activities are impermanent, consciousness is impermanent.’ Thus he dwells contemplating impermanence in these five aggregates subject to clinging. This is called the perception of impermanence.

And what, Ānanda, is the perception of non-self? Here, having gone to the forest, to the foot of a tree, or to an empty hut, a bhikkhu reflects thus: ‘The eye is non-self, forms are non-self; the ear is non-self, sounds are non-self; the nose is non-self, odors are non-self; the tongue is non-self, tastes are non-self; the body is non-self, tactile objects are non-self; the mind is non-self, mental phenomena are non-self.’ Thus he dwells contemplating non-self in these six internal and external sense bases. This is called the perception of non-self.
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