[It is a bit off...but I don't see Lord Buddha ever bow to someone after Enlightenment./quote]
I think the question here is whether you are bowing down to a person with unwholesome behaviour.
A senior monk may have some unwholesome behaviour but is not unwholesome to declare him as Parajika perhaps.
Even an Arahant might bow down to a senior non-Arahant.
How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
Re: How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
SarathW wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:39 amArahant might bow down to senior non-Arahant.[It is a bit off...but I don't see Lord Buddha ever bow to someone after Enlightenment./quote]
I think the question here is whether you are bowing down to a person with unwholesome behaviour.
A senior monk may have some unwholesome behaviour but is not unwholesome to declare him as Parajika perhaps.
Even an Arahant might bow down to a senior non-Arahant.
Any example?
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
Re: How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
Ontheway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:45 amIt is a Vinaya rule.SarathW wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:39 amArahant might bow down to senior non-Arahant.[It is a bit off...but I don't see Lord Buddha ever bow to someone after Enlightenment./quote]
I think the question here is whether you are bowing down to a person with unwholesome behaviour.
A senior monk may have some unwholesome behaviour but is not unwholesome to declare him as Parajika perhaps.
Even an Arahant might bow down to a senior non-Arahant.
Any example?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
According to the Vinaya rules the Buddha would automatically be the most senior. Hence all who come after would have to do the bowing.Ontheway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:32 amIt is a bit off...but I don't see Lord Buddha ever bow to someone after Enlightenment.
But the Buddha would not be beyond cleaning up the excrements of a sick person.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html
And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.
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Re: How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
Actually, it's a start.
Or rather not by groveling, per se, but by striving to cultivate humility, which is very commonly practiced in Theravadin monasteries through the washing of the feet of elder monks by their juniors. They just don't do it with their tongues, lol.
Re: How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
Certainly, but Ananda got the less pleasant job....pegembara wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:53 pm
But the Buddha would not be beyond cleaning up the excrements of a sick person.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html
Re: How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
The act of washing another's feet is not grovelling without ego and if this is mere rites and rituals.four mobile truths wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:17 pmActually, it's a start.
Or rather not by groveling, per se, but by striving to cultivate humility, which is very commonly practiced in Theravadin monasteries through the washing of the feet of elder monks by their juniors. They just don't do it with their tongues, lol.
Come to think of it there is no reason to do this except to learn humility which is an egoistic act. From being superior to being inferior to another.
You've got to start somewhere I suppose.
The practical act of washing another's excrement on the other hand is just an act of kindness if that person is sick.
And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.
Re: How to eliminate self-view? Wash the feet of anyone with your tounge?
Tongue is spelled wrong. Also, I hear there are people who like sucking toes and licking feet.