Christian heaven vs buddhism described heavens

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Christian heaven vs buddhism described heavens

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What thiz guy described of Christian heaven resemble what the suttas described various realm in heavens .
What a coincidence !

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asahi wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 4:59 am What thiz guy described of Christian heaven resemble what the suttas described various realm in heavens .
What a coincidence !

Perhaps Buddhism influenced early Christians in the Middle East...

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He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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I don't see any significant similarities, I'm afraid. Angels, a guided tour by Jesus, meeting up with OT patriarchs and saints, a big auditorium where people and angels worship God?

Nor does the "heaven" described by this pastor have much to do with the tiny amount that Jesus is supposed to have said about heaven in the New Testament. It sounds more like he is riffing on various ideas about a happy afterlife which Christians throughout the ages have speculated about.
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So what? You accepting Christianity now? :roll:
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No , i am still very buddhist :jumping:
Christian heaven as described appear not as superior as rupa loka though .
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Ontheway wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 10:48 am So what? You accepting Christianity now?
Why not
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asahi wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:04 pm No , i am still very buddhist :jumping:
Christian heaven as described appear not as superior as rupa loka though .
Christianity is pretty much a copy of Zoroastrianism, IMO. Satan, heaven and hell, judgment day, etc. weren't even Christian concepts to begin with...
"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "
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The Kingdom of Heaven is neither here nor there. It is within you. Look for Enlightenment within. :anjali:
That sage who has perfect insight,
at the summit of spiritual perfection:
that’s who I call a brahmin.

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Kusala wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 10:09 am judgment day, etc. weren't even Christian concepts to begin with...
“Everyone, deep in their hearts, is waiting for the end of the world to come.”

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cappuccino wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 3:38 pm
Kusala wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 10:09 am judgment day, etc. weren't even Christian concepts to begin with...
“Everyone, deep in their hearts, is waiting for the end of the world to come.”

— Haruki Murakami
I think this wonderful quote encapsulates the essence of the Buddha "Sasana"...

"Buddha was not angry with the world. He thought of it as unsatisfactory and transitory rather than wicked, as ignorant rather than rebellious. He troubled little about people who would not listen to him and showed no nervous irritablity. " - Prof. Eliot
"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "
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Kusala wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 9:09 pm Buddha Sasana
but this is still Kali Yuga
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cappuccino wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 9:18 pm
Kusala wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 9:09 pm Buddha Sasana
but this is still Kali Yuga
What Kali Yuga ?

From Christianity to Buddhism, now to Hinduism?

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Ontheway wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 6:12 am From Christianity to Buddhism, now to Hinduism?
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