woman's body has things(sights, sounds..) what stimulate desire.https://suttacentral.net/an3.112/en/sujato?layout=sidebyside&reference=none¬es=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin wrote: And how does desire come up for things that stimulate desire and greed in the past, future, or present?
Kathañca, bhikkhave, atīte chandarāgaṭṭhāniye dhamme ārabbha chando jāyati?
manoramā = kāmaguṇā = chandarāga?https://suttacentral.net/an5.55/en/sujato?layout=sidebyside&reference=none¬es=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin wrote: These five kinds of sensual stimulation
Pañca kāmaguṇā ete,
are apparent in a woman’s body:
itthirūpasmiṁ dissare;
sights, sounds, tastes, smells,
Rūpā saddā rasā gandhā,
and touches so delightful.
phoṭṭhabbā ca manoramā.
It could be that if someone has removed the fetter of lust, there still is chanda for further cultivation, but without rāga.https://dictionary.sutta.org/browse/c/chandar%C4%81ga/ wrote:Concise Pali-English Dictionary by A.P. Buddhadatta Mahathera
chandarāga:[m.] exciting desire.