asammūḷho kālaṁ karoti

[Coëmgenu]

Unfortunately, that isn't reading it "literally." Reading it literally wouldn't turn karoti into a gerundative.

As to his so-called "meaning" being "possible," he'd have to find it used as such in a Pāli sutta: something he has not done and can't do.

[mjaviem]

Unfortunately, that isn't reading it "literally." Reading it literally wouldn't turn karoti into a gerundative.

As to his so-called "meaning" being "possible," he'd have to find it used as such in a Pāli sutta: something he has not done and can't do.

Probably he won't be able to. In any case, it is clear that saying "kālaṁ karoti" which involves time is not the same as saying "maraṇa" or whatever pali word would render in english as "dead". These kind of subtleties are lost with translations.

[Joe.c]

Well. It will take too long for me to explain how i come up with that.

Basicaly try to bring up the whole teaching in the fore front. Then try to see how the wordings can be used in the whole teaching. Then, see how does the wordings can be used in your real experience. Then one can get the full meaning.

Basically don’t put any bias into the translation. Try to understand the context especially your own experience (not easy for most people).

When one develop Metta Bhavana, the mind will be very focus and expansive (aka in samadhi). So never confused when doing something in real life. It will be different for regular person with undeveloped mind, he/she will be confused and doubting everything.

But yeah you will never see me, learning pali language formally. i’m type of person into practical thing now.

[Coëmgenu]

I think it's good to be biased against inaccurate and/or wrong translations.

[Ceisiwr]

Unfortunately, that isn't reading it "literally." Reading it literally wouldn't turn karoti into a gerundative.

As to his so-called "meaning" being "possible," he'd have to find it used as such in a Pāli sutta: something he has not done and can't do.

Probably he won't be able to. In any case, it is clear that saying "kālaṁ karoti" which involves time is not the same as saying "maraṇa" or whatever pali word would render in english as "dead". These kind of subtleties are lost with translations.

Yet it still concerns the same thing. Death.

[mjaviem]

Well. It will take too long for me to explain how i come up with that.

Basicaly try to bring up the whole teaching in the fore front. Then try to see how the wordings can be used in the whole teaching. Then, see how does the wordings can be used in your real experience. Then one can get the full meaning.

Basically don’t put any bias into the translation. Try to understand the context especially your own experience (not easy for most people).

When one develop Metta Bhavana, the mind will be very focus and expansive (aka in samadhi). So never confused when doing something in real life. It will be different for regular person with undeveloped mind, he/she will be confused and doubting everything.

But yeah you will never see me, learning pali language formally. i’m type of person into practical thing now.

...
“And how is a monk one with a sense of meaning? There is the case where a monk knows the meaning of this & that statement—’This is the meaning of that statement; that is the meaning of this.’ If he didn’t know the meaning of this & that statement—’This is the meaning of that statement; that is the meaning of this’—he wouldn’t be said to be one with a sense of meaning. So it’s because he does know the meaning of this & that statement—’This is the meaning of that statement; that is the meaning of this’—that he is said to be one with a sense of meaning. This is one with a sense of Dhamma & a sense of meaning.
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[dharmalotus48]

Do you agree with the following translation?

asammūḷho kālaṁ karoti

...
One’s mind gains concentration quickly. One’s complexion is bright. One dies unconfused and—if penetrating no higher—is headed for the Brahma worlds.
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Sometimes I'm amazed the many ways translators interpret Pali words as death and birth. These three pali words could mean something about not being infatuated about time or something similar but who am I to interpret like this?

Assam , harm
Mulho, root
Kalam, duration, certain time
Karoo, build

Assam mulho kalam karoti

to build the root of all harm for a duration of time

If that root would only build, then it never dies

So yes, death is correct imo