What is liberating insight?

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pegembara wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:19 am Heaven is a place in consciousness, is it not?
That’s one of two truths
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cappuccino wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:21 am
pegembara wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:19 am Heaven is a place in consciousness, is it not?
That’s one of two truths
I understand it to be a plane of existence that can be visited by consciousness. No?
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NotMe wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:33 am I understand it to be a plane of existence that can be visited by consciousness. No?
Yes, it’s like New York, without the crime
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cappuccino wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:35 am
NotMe wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:33 am I understand it to be a plane of existence that can be visited by consciousness. No?
Yes, it’s like New York, without the crime
What if I don’t want to use the subways can’t drive a car can’t walk have no money for Uber and I’m afraid to hitch hike like I did in the 60s. How would I get anywhere? Oh and I can’t use the wheelchair escape ward slide on my belly slither like a snake or anything. Period what do you think Cappy?

Would I like it there?
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NotMe wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:44 am Period what do you think Cappy?

Would I like it there?
I can’t say
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cappuccino wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:46 am
NotMe wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:44 am Period what do you think Cappy?

Would I like it there?
I can’t say
Reminds me of a Tull song “Nothing to Say”. Have not listened in decades. Here is to you Cappy and good night.

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That was a strange question
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Bundokji wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:38 am
form wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:16 am 4NT or three marks of existence or something else or something that cannot be expressed in words?
I would go with something that cannot be expressed in words.
Mahayana I think use the word emptiness or panna
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cappuccino wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:53 am That was a strange question
This is quite a prominent topic among Buddhist scholars.
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Jhana. Jhana is understanding and knowledge. It is also a state of mind. Sometimes even a promise you make to yourself.
money is worthless toilet paper • the tongue has no bone (a person might say one thing but it cannot be further from the truth) • you cannot teach a goat math as in you cannot teach the dhamma to a dumb person
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form wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:16 am 4NT or three marks of existence or something else or something that cannot be expressed in words?

If kilesa or defilement can't control you, and nothing causes you to create karma, you are liberated IMO.
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form wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:05 am
Bundokji wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:38 am
form wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:16 am 4NT or three marks of existence or something else or something that cannot be expressed in words?
I would go with something that cannot be expressed in words.
Mahayana I think use the word emptiness or panna
Samma ditthi sutta explains it all as expressed by Sariputta thero. It is understanding the unwholesome and its roots and understanding the wholesome and its roots as mentioned in sutta .
One can read this sutta to understand it all.
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