What was the buddhas opinion on different religions and were they incorrect?

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What was the buddhas opinion on different religions and were they incorrect?

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Gami47 wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:07 pm:namaste:
He thought they were at best incomplete, therefore not correct. Others religions faired worse. As I understand it.

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They're wrong views and some religions are even straight up fabricated lies and political fables. Even most Buddhists still dwell in wrong view.
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Gami47 wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:07 pm:namaste:
Buddha is the dhamma teacher, not interested in religion(belief structures) only the dhamma.
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Read Apannaka Sutta and Brahmajala Sutta.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.

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Buddha was quite critical of Brahminisn, but I don't think he had much to say about other religions.
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Spiny Norman wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:57 am Buddha was quite critical of Brahminisn, but I don't think he had much to say about other religions.
Lord Buddha did comment negatively on various doctrines, including Nigantha Nataputta (Jainism), Ajivakas (self-mortification), Makkhali Gosala (non-causality, randomness), Sanjaya Belatthaputta (agnosticism), Pakudha Kaccayana (Atomic Eternalism), and Ajita Kesakambala (materialism aka modern 'YOLO' & nihilism)...

Not only Brahmanism (doctrine of having a Creator).
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At the time they were philosophies. Not religions. They (The Lord Buddha and the various philosophers and ascetics) argued so amicably you have no idea (friendlily). They were after the truth. The truth of the matter. They had mutual respect for each other. There were no heated arguments. These philosophers got certain things right, but mostly they got it wrong. But they were simply totally great philosophers and not Enlightened beings and also, not omniscient as the Lord Buddha Gotama. This is why they got philosophies and teachings wrong. But not all of them. Certain things were true. But it wasn't too difficult for them to reason. They were reasonable people. People at the time needed mostly 2 things: philosophy and technology. This was in Ancient India, do not forget. There were all kinds of people -- it was an ambivalent society -- nearly anything you could think of. So people needed to know the truth about life, lead a better and kinder life, with greater compassion for the suffering people, finding happiness themselves, and they needed technology, but at the time Mathematics was just being started by Pythagoras in Ancient Greece and not spread to India so science could not take root in India and thus not technology. And Gotama predicted it anyway that technology would be developed in the West. In the deeper future. Just like he predicted other things, like the coming of Metteyya Buddha Arahant Enlightened Awakened Teacher.

He thought these philosophies were insufficient for reaching the end of suffering. It was as simple as that. Whereas his did.

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Buddha pointed out some religions exist in his time in excess of eighty views. (wrong views)
Buddhism also has a view of why it is different from other religions in that it is not based on craving. (right view)

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He thought their ideas were the result of craving and clinging to vedana, similar to David Hume’s ideas about metaphysics.
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Ontheway wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:13 am
Spiny Norman wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:57 am Buddha was quite critical of Brahminisn, but I don't think he had much to say about other religions.
Lord Buddha did comment negatively on various doctrines, including Nigantha Nataputta (Jainism), Ajivakas (self-mortification), Makkhali Gosala (non-causality, randomness), Sanjaya Belatthaputta (agnosticism), Pakudha Kaccayana (Atomic Eternalism), and Ajita Kesakambala (materialism aka modern 'YOLO' & nihilism)...

Not only Brahmanism (doctrine of having a Creator).
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Mahāparinibbāna Sutta (DN 16) wrote: In any doctrine & discipline where the noble eightfold path is not ascertained, no contemplative of the first… second… third… fourth order [stream-winner, once-returner, non-returner, or arahant] is ascertained. But in any doctrine & discipline where the noble eightfold path is ascertained, contemplatives of the first… second… third… fourth order are ascertained. The noble eightfold path is ascertained in this doctrine & discipline, and right here there are contemplatives of the first… second… third… fourth order. Other teachings are empty of knowledgeable contemplatives. And if the monks dwell rightly, this world will not be empty of arahants.
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