Deep sleeping.What's a sleeping body, good householder?
I saw (an experience I am snoring)
Deep sleeping.What's a sleeping body, good householder?
It's practiced in Tibetan Buddhism, AKA Tibetan Dream Yoga.
nothing special. may be ur ears are still functioning and u never really went into deep sleep...
I think I heard I am snoring.confusedlayman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:16 pmnothing special. may be ur ears are still functioning and u never really went into deep sleep...
How to reach this state at will?
this is different,. here you dont feel body as mind is only awake. you cant hear sounds or 5 sence experience.
Sometimes my heartbeat moves me around when sitting. It's almost distracting but it is also kind of nice.
Since this post falls into the nimitta category discussion aka idle chatter; Choose to ignore it or not.Dhammapardon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:32 amSometimes my heartbeat moves me around when sitting. It's almost distracting but it is also kind of nice.
Oh no! Thanks for sharing that experience. I will likely not follow your footsteps there any time soon and keep my nose in tact for now.
Interesting, there's a spot about 3/4ths the way down from sternum to belly button which I visualize in my own personal way a relax and release there. Examining it right now I can gently rub the spot with my thumb and sense if there is tension there or not(like tense gut or relaxed gut maybe?). When there's no tension, it's sensation to touch of my thumb is almost like precursor to ticklish and I notice my breathing is deeper after relaxing the tension there. Then when I sit, I breathe with attention there and leave the exhaled breath for a moment sitting in that sensation. I find it helps in the process of emptying the mind and dropping the distractions that typically arise in sitting meditation. Doesn't happen when I've been bad though. Those days the stomach is a knot until cause and effect run its course. Or when I've eaten things like greasy hamburger. Wholesome living, vegetables, and empty stomach is much better in my experience. Apparently the micro-ogranisms in my body take great pleasure in fresh vegetables compared to greasy food. I like to visualize them chomping away on carrot fibers like a dog chews a rawhide bone.A short cut I have to that is thinking of a swastika shape on my lower dianten four finger breadths below the navel exhale all air from lungs and nose as a breath lock and turn the stomach around like a wheel if done right it will seem like the stomach muscles have changed places a throbbing heart beat sort bliss and a sort of ringing in both ears occurs...
I think I can infer what you mean by lokka but would you be able to clarify any further what lokka is?It's A lot like breath as a meditation object... Breath has a bouncing up and down sort of effect and heart has a bouncing forward and backwards when used as an object moving the hearts lokka to just the head has some really funny results.
Could you please explain a little furthe ron this? What is the difference in your words?listening instead of being just focused on the experiencing of sensation is a source a lot of wisdom as it is the so called bardo of death one is going through by will not accident.
Lokka is any location or abode... In the sense used above even though the heart is said to be in the chest it can be placed anywhere in existence and observed. Placing the heart in the location of head and peripherally looking towards the nose big puffy cheeks like the fat buddha statues and a head that seems to inflate or get bigger and bigger with every heartbeat in it having changed the location of the cakra... it's a good one for combating an unpleasant mood. Like most people listen wrong if you listen with your mind on your throat cakra then the ears will translate whatever language it is as if it is your native language...focusing on their throat cakra and speaking accomplishes the other end... but thats just a side effect from mindfulness and samadhi practice where no learning was actually needed or involved beyond the mental yoke of focusing in the right lokka.Dhammapardon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:10 amOh no! Thanks for sharing that experience. I will likely not follow your footsteps there any time soon and keep my nose in tact for now.
Interesting, there's a spot about 3/4ths the way down from sternum to belly button which I visualize in my own personal way a relax and release there. Examining it right now I can gently rub the spot with my thumb and sense if there is tension there or not(like tense gut or relaxed gut maybe?). When there's no tension, it's sensation to touch of my thumb is almost like precursor to ticklish and I notice my breathing is deeper after relaxing the tension there. Then when I sit, I breathe with attention there and leave the exhaled breath for a moment sitting in that sensation. I find it helps in the process of emptying the mind and dropping the distractions that typically arise in sitting meditation. Doesn't happen when I've been bad though. Those days the stomach is a knot until cause and effect run its course. Or when I've eaten things like greasy hamburger. Wholesome living, vegetables, and empty stomach is much better in my experience. Apparently the micro-ogranisms in my body take great pleasure in fresh vegetables compared to greasy food. I like to visualize them chomping away on carrot fibers like a dog chews a rawhide bone.A short cut I have to that is thinking of a swastika shape on my lower dianten four finger breadths below the navel exhale all air from lungs and nose as a breath lock and turn the stomach around like a wheel if done right it will seem like the stomach muscles have changed places a throbbing heart beat sort bliss and a sort of ringing in both ears occurs...
I think I can infer what you mean by lokka but would you be able to clarify any further what lokka is?It's A lot like breath as a meditation object... Breath has a bouncing up and down sort of effect and heart has a bouncing forward and backwards when used as an object moving the hearts lokka to just the head has some really funny results.
Could you please explain a little furthe ron this? What is the difference in your words?listening instead of being just focused on the experiencing of sensation is a source a lot of wisdom as it is the so called bardo of death one is going through by will not accident.
To Sarath's OP, I'm not sure what that sensation of body asleep/mind awake is exactly like but the closest I can relate is through this sort of above practice of relaxation and proliferation of that sensation with steady mindfulness and attentiveness.
Hopefully not too much idle chatter from me exploring as well.