İnsight

On the cultivation of insight/wisdom
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Miyawex
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İnsight

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Hi
1.whats the advantage of noting technique for gaining insight

2.İn mahasi sayadaw noting technique, there are notes for everything

For example body's physical movements notes like standing up,lifting,lying down etc

İ use shinzen youngs see hear feel technique and it has only three note(see,hear,feel)how can we adapt mahasi's notes to shinzen's noting system

For instance what correspond to lying down in shinzens noting system
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Goofaholix
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Re: İnsight

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The point of noting practice is that it teaches you to keep track of moment to moment changes on an increasingly detailed level, and it helps you to see what you are experiencing objectively. Once you get good at it you'll probably start to feel noting is quite clunky and tiring, then I'd recommend simplifying or dropping noting practice.

I'm not familiar with Shinzens see,hear,feel noting practice but it sounds like a simplified noting practice interested in the sense bases, which is really what Mahasi noting is interested in too but people can get caught up in the detail.

When you are lying down how do you know you are lying down? can you hear it? no, can you see it? maybe if your eyes are open. You can definietly feel physically the body lying down, so you'd note the physical feeling as feel.
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Miyawex wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:09 pm Hi
1.whats the advantage of noting technique for gaining insight

2.İn mahasi sayadaw noting technique, there are notes for everything

For example body's physical movements notes like standing up,lifting,lying down etc

İ use shinzen youngs see hear feel technique and it has only three note(see,hear,feel)how can we adapt mahasi's notes to shinzen's noting system

For instance what correspond to lying down in shinzens noting system
In my opinion, this is a partial practice of the mindfulness of the body.
There are four Satipathana to be observed to gain insight.
Please read Satipathana Sutta.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
maniture_85
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Re: İnsight

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Miyawex wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:09 pm Hi
1.whats the advantage of noting technique for gaining insight

2.İn mahasi sayadaw noting technique, there are notes for everything

For example body's physical movements notes like standing up,lifting,lying down etc

İ use shinzen youngs see hear feel technique and it has only three note(see,hear,feel)how can we adapt mahasi's notes to shinzen's noting system

For instance what correspond to lying down in shinzens noting system
I tried it on my first meditations years ago. Did not feel any benefit, on the countrary.
It produced disturb.
Pasindu
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Re: İnsight

Post by Pasindu »

Answer for Q1
  • It improves your memory because you are aware of the surroundings and are living in that moment.
  • It helps keep mind from wondering into sinful thoughts.
  • Helps calm the mind for vipassana meditation.
  • Each moment you spend in mindfulness instead of thinking sinful thoughts is a step away from hell.
  • Can be transitioned into vipassana by contemplating the impermanence of each action. (Kolitha, Upathissa [Sariputta, Moggallana theros] decided to become monks after realizing the impermanance of body movements)
  • Can be developed into being mindful of thoughts(cittanupassana) Please refer to Mahasathipattana sutta
Good luck!
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