Are sotapannas unable to date/marry non Buddhists due to unwavering faith in the buddha?

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Re: Are sotapannas unable to date/marry non Buddhists due to unwavering faith in the buddha?

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robertk wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:20 pm Visakha, a sotapanna at age 7, married a non- Buddhist.
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There is also a story i believe of a sotapanna who fell in love with and married a non-Buddhist hunter. So no. unwavering faith in the Buddha doesnt mean you can only marry other Buddhists.
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Re: Are sotapannas unable to date/marry non Buddhists due to unwavering faith in the buddha?

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TRobinson465 wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:55 am There is also a story i believe of a sotapanna who fell in love with and married a non-Buddhist hunter. So no. unwavering faith in the Buddha doesnt mean you can only marry other Buddhists.
Yes that is right.
And later visakha's husband and the hunter converted to Dhamma and I think they became sotapanna too.
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It depends.

In india most of them are married acc to parents wish. So parents ask another family parents if they have children of marragable age.

So visaka has no choice than to marry what her parents decided.
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confusedlayman wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:41 am It depends.

In india most of them are married acc to parents wish. So parents ask another family parents if they have children of marragable age.

So visaka has no choice than to marry what her parents decided.
True, but thats not what actually happened. Visakha accepted the marriage proposal on her own. Her particular marriage wasnt arranged by her parents, even if that was common at the time and even in India now.
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Gami47 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:15 pm:namaste:
Considering the doctrine I find it hilarious that a sotapanna would want to marry. :lol:
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SteRo wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:40 pm
Gami47 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:15 pm:namaste:
Considering the doctrine I find it hilarious that a sotapanna would want to marry. :lol:
Sotapanna still have lobha for sense objects. They have only eliminated the lobha associated with wrong view.
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SteRo wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:40 pm Considering the doctrine I find it hilarious that a sotapanna would want to marry.
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robertk wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:29 pm
SteRo wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:40 pm
Gami47 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:15 pm:namaste:
Considering the doctrine I find it hilarious that a sotapanna would want to marry. :lol:
Sotapanna still have lobha for sense objects. They have only eliminated the lobha associated with wrong view.
Oh dear ... your sotapannas are pitiable. :sage:


But hey, this forum is a forum of losers in terms of doctrine. Necessarily! Why? There are too many ambiguities (Incoherences). You can spend your whole life "according with dhamma" without any difference in comparison with non-buddhists. But it's fine, you'll just die as everybody else. :sage:
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SteRo wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:37 am You can spend your whole life "according with dhamma" without any difference in comparison with non-buddhists.
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cappuccino wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 am
SteRo wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:37 am You can spend your whole life "according with dhamma" without any difference in comparison with non-buddhists.
And better than a hundred years
lived without seeing
the Deathless state, is
one day
lived seeing
the Deathless state.


And better than a hundred years
lived without seeing
the ultimate Dhamma, is
one day
lived seeing
the ultimate Dhamma.



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SteRo wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:40 pm
Gami47 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:15 pm:namaste:
Considering the doctrine I find it hilarious that a sotapanna would want to marry. :lol:
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confusedlayman wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:33 am Why? Explain
they think your priority would be awakening


but… who knows
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