Yesterday I summarized my view like this: cessation of DO is "just" radical disidentification.Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:55 pmIf DO is the mechanics behind the production of vedanā-based dukkha, and if they have said dukkha/vedanā, how can you say that this process has been "transcended" in the specific way that you are saying at present? I don't expect you to be an Āryan, but I do think that you're holding an indefensible view, or at least one that you can't defend using the Pāli Canon and other EBTs. Several Chán masters might agree with you. The Platform Sūtra and the Śūraṅgamasūtra might come to your aid, but not the EBTs I don't think.AlexBrains92 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:51 pmThere's no different mechanics. DO has been transcended, that's it.Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:44 pm
I don't think you actually have. You've made a few generally true statements to do with Arhats' and/or Āryans' realizations, and you've made an argument that Arhats and/or Āryans would not have the same conceptions regarding things as worldlings, but I don't think you've commented on the mechanics of how the residue left produces dukkha if not by contact-borne vedanā and what that dukkha is if it is not vedanā.
You don't have to answer now though. I myself have to finish my larger post I said I'd make before I can get in-depth with this issue.
Anyway, I'm not an arahant, so I have no further details
I'm probably not able to support this effectively, but it doesn't sound so absurd to me.