Mind is based on Heart

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I found a lecture on Vatthu rupa or Hadaya vatthu.

And it seems we/many know only very little about Abhidhamma compared to those lecturers.

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Eye consciousness is based on Eye.
Ear consciousness is based on Ear.
Nose consciousness is based on Nose.
Tongue consciousness is based on Tongue.
Body consciousness is based on Body.
Mind consciousness is based on Blood of Heart.

According to the Abhidhamma and Commentaires.
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Some food for thought:
- What will happen when a heart transplant or blood transfusion happens to a patient?
- Where are the heart and blood of the Deva, Brahma, and Arupavacara beings?
- I do not think you find these claims in Tipitaka
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SarathW wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:49 pm - What will happen when a heart transplant or blood transfusion happens to a patient?
It is same as skin transplant. When a skin transplan happens, the Kayappasada of my skin doesn't go into other person's.
Pasadas are Kamma-born realities. They can't transfer.
When a part of my skin is removed, the kayappasada will not be born in removed part.
- Where are the heart and blood of the Deva, Brahma, and Arupavacara beings?
There is no necessity for mind to be based only on heart-blood. Mind is considered to need a physical base only if mind is weak. (in lower realms)
- I do not think you find these claims in Tipitaka
Even the Patthana says "Vatthu". And many of the other things are in Atthakatha. They are in accordance with Tipitaka.

Moreover there were no school/view who just read the Tipitaka without the Atthakatha. It a new invention.
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Is smell, taste and sound also rupa?
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yamadwipa wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:16 am Is smell, taste and sound also rupa?
yes, per the Abhi., visible form, sound, smell, and taste belong to the GocaraRupa, a sub-group under Rupa's hierarchy ( GocaraRupa < UpadayaRupa < Rupa ). Refer to CMOA for further details.
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The mind based on heart base found in the heart. But not the heart organ itself. I think Visuddhimagga clarified it already.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.

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