It was said that four factors in needed in order to break the third precept:1,knowing there is a forbidden woman,2.intention to have sex with the forbidden woman,3.effort to have sex the forbidden woman,4.the sexual intercourse happen as a result.Sam Vara wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:47 pmWell, I guess you would have to fantasise about someone or something; I've never heard of a "formless masturbation". (But I'm that phrase!) The same applies - no formal breach of precept, but some would consider it unwise if one values celibacy.dawn of peace wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:33 pmhow about people who fantasizing about strangers or their friends or masturbating on the pictures of celebrities or public figures in general?Sam Vara wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:52 am
Presumably anyone voluntarily taking part in pornography would be giving tacit consent for fantasies and masturbation. The mind boggles at how you would otherwise seek consent to fantasise about someone sexually, but I guess it would involve you in some interesting conversations!
the precept will not be broken if no sexual intercourse take place and not all four factors are fulfilled,but if first two factors are fulfilled, the precept can be corrupted.
is sexual fantasies considered to be intention? can watching porn or masturbation considered to be effort?