Eating/Cooking while listening to Dhamma talks

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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Eating/Cooking while listening to Dhamma talks

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Hello all.

I wonder: Is it inappropriate to listen to recorded Dhamma talk while cooking or eating in the kitchen?
I don't think that it is. I mean it is not intentionally disrespectful, just saving and making good use of the time in today's busy world.

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One will say;
"This man has no deference towards the Dhamma such that he listens to it even while cooking!"

Another will say;
"This man has much deference for the Dhamma such that he listens to it even while cooking!"

The drawback of listening to recorded Dhamma all day is that you don't want to spend your days merely listening to the Dhamma. Ideally you should spend your days exerting yourself in training.
Then a certain monk went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down to him, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One, "'One who dwells in the Dhamma, one who dwells in the Dhamma': thus it is said, lord. To what extent is a bhikkhu one who dwells in the Dhamma?"

"Monk, there is the case where a monk studies the Dhamma: dialogues, narratives of mixed prose and verse, explanations, verses, spontaneous exclamations, quotations, birth stories, amazing events, question & answer sessions.[1] He spends the day in Dhamma-study. He neglects seclusion. He doesn't commit himself to internal tranquillity of awareness. This is called a monk who is keen on study, not one who dwells in the Dhamma.

"Then there is the case where a monk takes the Dhamma as he has heard & studied it and teaches it in full detail to others. He spends the day in Dhamma-description. He neglects seclusion. He doesn't commit himself to internal tranquillity of awareness. This is called a monk who is keen on description, not one who dwells in the Dhamma.

"Then there is the case where a monk takes the Dhamma as he has heard & studied it and recites it in full detail. He spends the day in Dhamma-recitation. He neglects seclusion. He doesn't commit himself to internal tranquillity of awareness. This is called a monk who is keen on recitation, not one who dwells in the Dhamma.

"Then there is the case where a monk takes the Dhamma as he has heard & studied it and thinks about it, evaluates it, and examines it with his intellect. He spends the day in Dhamma-thinking. He neglects seclusion. He doesn't commit himself to internal tranquillity of awareness. This is called a monk who is keen on thinking, not one who dwells in the Dhamma.

"Then there is the case where a monk studies the Dhamma: dialogues, narratives of mixed prose and verse, explanations, verses, spontaneous exclamations, quotations, birth stories, amazing events, question & answer sessions. He doesn't spend the day in Dhamma-study. He doesn't neglect seclusion. He commits himself to internal tranquillity of awareness. This is called a monk who dwells in the Dhamma.

"Now, monk, I have taught you the person who is keen on study, the one who is keen on description, the one who is keen on recitation, the one who is keen on thinking, and the one who dwells in the Dhamma. Whatever a teacher should do — seeking the welfare of his disciples, out of sympathy for them — that have I done for you. Over there are the roots of trees; over there, empty dwellings. Practice jhana, monk. Don't be heedless. Don't later fall into regret. This is our message to you."

Note1.The earliest classifications of the Buddha's teachings.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html
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jinic wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:38 pm The drawback of listening to recorded Dhamma all day is that you don't want to spend your days merely listening to the Dhamma. Ideally you should spend your days exerting yourself in training.
Of course one should practice and not just listen to it whole day. It is just that while cooking/eating I can't (yet) meditate/contemplate and so listening to Dhamma might give me an extra 1-2 hours not to listen but practice it. And of course it can be inspirational to listen to this.
"This man has much deference for the Dhamma such that he listens to it even while cooking!"
Right. Try not to lose time when possible.
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Alex123 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:37 pm I wonder: Is it inappropriate to listen to recorded Dhamma talk while cooking or eating in the kitchen?
You can APPLY what you've listened to the Dhamma while cooking or eating in the kitchen, ie. applying mindfulness to the act of cooking, chewing, etc..
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It is good. It is like making your mind constantly stick with the teachings and associating with the teachings.

I say one can even do asubhanussati when pooping too: "Such is the nature of this body, there it produces poop (karisam in Pali) due to the ingestion of physical food and now it is coming out. Such is the process and it is impermanent, conducive to suffering, and not me, mine or my self."
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I don't listen to Dhamma talks while eating or cooking but I do while driving. If only 10% of the talk gets in that's 10% more than would otherwise, sometimes useful stuff pops out of the talk.
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I think it's best to listen to Dhamma talks when you are focused solely on them.
“The teacher willed that this world appear to me
as impermanent, unstable, insubstantial.
Mind, let me leap into the victor’s teaching,
carry me over the great flood, so hard to pass.”


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Goofaholix wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:30 pm I don't listen to Dhamma talks while eating or cooking but I do while driving. If only 10% of the talk gets in that's 10% more than would otherwise, sometimes useful stuff pops out of the talk.
Me to. I listen to Dhamma talks when driving (making such mundane activity more beneficial).
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Ceisiwr wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:44 pm I think it's best to listen to Dhamma talks when you are focused solely on them.
Yes.
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