Are upacara samadhi(access concentration) and ditthadhammasukhavihara(pleasant abiding here and now) the same thing?

[Dhammapardon]

From what I understand both are precursors to jhanas and appear to be described the same ways.

[Sam Vara]

From what I understand both are precursors to jhanas and appear to be described the same ways.

I've always thought of upacara samadhi to be a precursor to jhanas in the process, whereas the "pleasant abiding" refers to the use the meditator might make of the experience. But that's just based on what I heard someone say, rather than looking at how the phrases are used.

Frank k has had a look at its use:

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So hopefully he will be along to help you out. If not, you could PM him.

[SarathW]

From what I understand both are precursors to jhanas and appear to be described the same ways.

I've always thought of upacara samadhi to be a precursor to jhanas in the process, whereas the "pleasant abiding" refers to the use the meditator might make of the experience. But that's just based on what I heard someone say, rather than looking at how the phrases are used.

Frank k has had a look at its use:

viewtopic.php?t=34669

So hopefully he will be along to help you out. If not, you could PM him.

Yes, that is how I understand it.
I also heard that when you come out of Jhana too you have the Upacara Samadhi.
The way I understand that the Upacara Samadhi is a Jhana state and the pleasant abiding here and now is a Vipassana state.

I may be wrong.