Hi,
More than a decade ago, I use to think about world hunger problems, so it's in the back of my mind, years ago, I thought I would create a website and collect money to solve hunger problems. But, now no longer gonna do it. But, here I just calculate what it's gonna take and the best way to do it. I want to share it, because already thought about it and calculated it and don't want it to just stay in my mind alone.
There are 800 million people worldwide going hungry (10%).
It can cost about $0.40 per 3 meals per day per 1 person.
So, we need about $100 billion per year to help them. With just $100 billion per year, nobody in the world will go hungry.
Now, if everyone, all countries, the government of all countries collects just 0.5 % extra hunger tax, they already collect 20% in my country, if they collect just 20.5% instead. We can gather $100 billion per year and help end world hunger as GDP of the world is about $110 trillion.
This task is to be carried out by an organization like United Nations or something like that. I would happily pay 0.5% tax to make this a reality, rather than showing me ads on Youtube that some NGO will do it, because I don't trust them where the money would go.
It's actually quite simple, the thing is, the problem must be solve by a governor like UN, rather than some individual.
Just want to share, hope my thought becomes a reality.
Thanks for reading.
This is how to end world hunger.
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Good idea, but knowing governments; they would collect that money and then one day decide that they have "important things to do with it" and spend it on something else.
The U.S. has already spent about $100 billion just to Ukraine in mostly lethal aid, weapons, bombs, fighter jets, etc. And this just leads to more killings and deaths. Those funds could have been used toward feeding people or housing the homeless, but war tends to take precedence in the U.S. and many other nations.
In Africa millions starve because of climate change and drought, but from what I have heard, the biggest contributing factor has been warfare. The continual conflicts between nations and the many civil wars disrupt the entire infrastructure and supply chain and then people go hungry.
The U.S. has already spent about $100 billion just to Ukraine in mostly lethal aid, weapons, bombs, fighter jets, etc. And this just leads to more killings and deaths. Those funds could have been used toward feeding people or housing the homeless, but war tends to take precedence in the U.S. and many other nations.
In Africa millions starve because of climate change and drought, but from what I have heard, the biggest contributing factor has been warfare. The continual conflicts between nations and the many civil wars disrupt the entire infrastructure and supply chain and then people go hungry.
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With climate effects, things will quickly get much much worse and those numbers simply won't add up. Humans probably won't make it thru the next 200 years, for we've already blown way past the point of no return in terms of what needs to be done conventionally to fix the climate. The only hope is some major breakthru in scientific discoveries/methodologies in order to fix it thru advanced technology.JC1990a wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:06 pm Now, if everyone, all countries, the government of all countries collects just 0.5 % extra hunger tax, they already collect 20% in my country, if they collect just 20.5% instead. We can gather $100 billion per year and help end world hunger as GDP of the world is about $110 trillion.
Don't blame the US for that. Blame little Smeagol sitting in the Kremlin. Ukraine already ceded a huge chunk of their territory, the Crimea, to him back in 2014, and that never satisfies his ever growing thirst for even more power and territories. So, gotta draw the line somewhere before Ukraine disappears completely from the map of Europe.DNS wrote:The U.S. has already spent about $100 billion just to Ukraine in mostly lethal aid, weapons, bombs, fighter jets, etc. And this just leads to more killings and deaths. Those funds could have been used toward feeding people or housing the homeless, but war tends to take precedence in the U.S. and many other nations.
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Re: This is how to end world hunger.
No offense, but this is a naive mathematical answer to a non-mathematical problem. If only it were simple math, this problem would have been solved long ago. Getting food into the mouths of the hungry is obviously a logistical nightmare in many cases. Often food is given to countries enduring a famine and the food gets stolen by government bureaucrats, soldiers, or gangsters.
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Few things to consider.
- It is not that straight. You have to deliver the food to the people. It is a logistic nightmare.
- Politicians in poor countries misuse the donations
- Companies like Bayer (Monsanto), introduce genetically modified seeds and destroy the local crops. It is called the seed mafia in poor countries.
- What need is nutritional food, not fast food.
So what we need is to help people to grow their own food.
- By providing technology.
- "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime."
- Cut down consumption and waste
- Cut down meal-taking habits
- It is not that straight. You have to deliver the food to the people. It is a logistic nightmare.
- Politicians in poor countries misuse the donations
- Companies like Bayer (Monsanto), introduce genetically modified seeds and destroy the local crops. It is called the seed mafia in poor countries.
- What need is nutritional food, not fast food.
So what we need is to help people to grow their own food.
- By providing technology.
- "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime."
- Cut down consumption and waste
- Cut down meal-taking habits
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Yes, you're right, world hunger could be solved if you look at money and food supplies globally. People have been aware of this for a long time. To be fair hunger has been declining as a % of population and many people have been lifted out of poverty. Why hasn't it been solved completely? Because not enough people/governments have the genuine intention to solve it. After all, intention determines results.JC1990a wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:06 pm Now, if everyone, all countries, the government of all countries collects just 0.5 % extra hunger tax, they already collect 20% in my country, if they collect just 20.5% instead. We can gather $100 billion per year and help end world hunger as GDP of the world is about $110 trillion.
Calculating that something is possible is one thing, but there needs to be intention to make it happen. Same goes for world peace, world debt, climate, refugees, extractivism and other global problems. We know how to fix it, but not enough people have the intention (yet).
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To be fair. its not like if we didnt send that money to Ukraine, they actually wouldve spent it on homeless anyways. And there are of course very logical strategic reasons as to why war takes precedence if you look past the rigid principles of no war ever. In WWII the allies werent really focusing on poverty reduction and not that many people complained since they kinda understood there were bigger fish to fry.DNS wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:02 pm
The U.S. has already spent about $100 billion just to Ukraine in mostly lethal aid, weapons, bombs, fighter jets, etc. And this just leads to more killings and deaths. Those funds could have been used toward feeding people or housing the homeless, but war tends to take precedence in the U.S. and many other nations.
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Your idea has been thought of b4 but i dont think its that simple. It really is that easy from an accounting standpoint but i think there are a few issues that make it so it wont happen that way.JC1990a wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:06 pm
There are 800 million people worldwide going hungry (10%).
It can cost about $0.40 per 3 meals per day per 1 person.
So, we need about $100 billion per year to help them. With just $100 billion per year, nobody in the world will go hungry.
Now, if everyone, all countries, the government of all countries collects just 0.5 % extra hunger tax, they already collect 20% in my country, if they collect just 20.5% instead. We can gather $100 billion per year and help end world hunger as GDP of the world is about $110 trillion.
This task is to be carried out by an organization like United Nations or something like that. I would happily pay 0.5% tax to make this a reality, rather than showing me ads on Youtube that some NGO will do it, because I don't trust them where the money would go.
It's actually quite simple, the thing is, the problem must be solve by a governor like UN, rather than some individual.
Just want to share, hope my thought becomes a reality.
Thanks for reading.
1. Poor countries are not gonna want to contribute cuz they feel thier tax dollars are better spent on infastructure and whatnot.
2. Many countries with the starving people have extreme levels of corruption and will just steal the hunger fund money (N Korea for instance), in fact this already happens to an extent with existing hunger aid. Even if you give them food directly corrupt officials will just sell it.
3. From an economic standpoint it doenst work that way, the cost of food would go up if we just bought more, food doesnt just magically appear when you have money, theres a fixed supply of food that has to change with the spike in demand. In fact most famines in history were not due to lack of money, it was due to lack of food, there simply wasnt enough food to go around due to bad harvests etc. This isnt as much of an issue now with industrialization but this issue does complicate your accounting a bit. You cant just give ppl money you have to increase the food supply as well by making farming more effective in the hunger zones thru donations of tractors and fertilizer. Not just giving them money to buy food that doesnt exist yet.
4. Some starvation is caused by a myriad of factors, not just lack of money, small scale warfare disrupting food supply chains to thier area for instance. You can be the richest person in africa but having money doesnt just make the food magically appear if some guerrilla army sealed off all the ports to your city.
5. Giving people free food does not solve the core problem. You have to give starving people the oppurtunity to work themselves out of poverty on thier own rather than relying on a permanent welfare fund. The reason some ppl are starving and some arent is because those who arent starving have the oppurtunity to make money and/or live in industrialized countries with tractors that produce sufficient food.
The real solution would be to invest in the nations with starving people and build thier infrastructure, so they can make money on thier own, buy tractors and produce food on thier own or import food during bad harvests, nobody (except monks but thats a different case) wants to live on charity forever. You would need to stamp out the corruption and political instability as well that causes investors to shy away from investing in starving countries. And from a Buddhist POV even this isnt enough, since poverty is ultimately cause by kamma, even if starving ppl are gifted with new oppurtunities to escape poverty, if they never perform dana they will just be poor again in thier next life. To rid the world of poverty for good you have to rid the world of stinginess, or just escape rebirth altogether.
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Apart from the factors just mentioned, there is also the animal agriculture industry.
The USA has approx. 320 million people and yet produces enough grain to feed 800 million people. Most of it used as animal feed though.
The USA has approx. 320 million people and yet produces enough grain to feed 800 million people. Most of it used as animal feed though.
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There are people who make their money from suffering. It is the reason why Skid Row is still full of homeless people. while a few blocks away in the greater L.A. area exists orgs that help illegal people achieve the American Dream™ (which was also promised to the skid row residents), some will go homeless thus repeating history.JC1990a wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:06 pm Hi,
More than a decade ago, I use to think about world hunger problems, so it's in the back of my mind, years ago, I thought I would create a website and collect money to solve hunger problems. But, now no longer gonna do it. But, here I just calculate what it's gonna take and the best way to do it. I want to share it, because already thought about it and calculated it and don't want it to just stay in my mind alone.
There are 800 million people worldwide going hungry (10%).
It can cost about $0.40 per 3 meals per day per 1 person.
So, we need about $100 billion per year to help them. With just $100 billion per year, nobody in the world will go hungry.
Now, if everyone, all countries, the government of all countries collects just 0.5 % extra hunger tax, they already collect 20% in my country, if they collect just 20.5% instead. We can gather $100 billion per year and help end world hunger as GDP of the world is about $110 trillion.
This task is to be carried out by an organization like United Nations or something like that. I would happily pay 0.5% tax to make this a reality, rather than showing me ads on Youtube that some NGO will do it, because I don't trust them where the money would go.
It's actually quite simple, the thing is, the problem must be solve by a governor like UN, rather than some individual.
Just want to share, hope my thought becomes a reality.
Thanks for reading.
If you want to help you should lend a hand to the food banks in your neck of the woods. That's really the only way to end world hunger since like others said ITT a government can easily use those funds for other purposes.
I am distrusting of NGOs for conservation reasons and have accepted that the Vaquita Porpoise and the Totoaba Fish will go the way of the Baiji (Yangtze River Dolphin) because said NGOs are afraid of naming the chinese at fault since they pay poor Mexican folk a handsome amount of pesos to fish Totoabas. The net they use also catches Vaquitas as bycatch. They use the Totoaba bladder for chinese medicine. The unreasonable death of said animals and exploitation of poor people will be considered a Decisive Tang Victory of course. It will be more productive to pay Sonoran Cartels imo to conserve these animals than these orgs that are not even near the Sea Of Cortez let alone Mexico. Maybe I am wrong but the mexican gov and these orgs arent doing much.
Doesn't most of it get exported like soybeans?
The system's neatest trick is planned obsolescence
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Life is suffering. You can never end it.
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