Greek mithology

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Hello all i want to ask a question in greek mithology there is Zeus which is very similar to Indra, is Zeus a copy of Indra or he just really exists in other galaxy? Also Zeus is portrayed like adulterous which doesnt fit with Sakka or Indra. And Poseidón is the God of the sea, is there a similar God in buddhism? Does he really rules the sea? Also Zeus, Poseidón and Hades in greek mithology are brothers, but doesnt fit with buddhism this assumption.
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The God Varuna seems to be like Poseidón.
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mario92 wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:52 am Hello all i want to ask a question in greek mithology there is Zeus which is very similar to Indra, is Zeus a copy of Indra or he just really exists in other galaxy? Also Zeus is portrayed like adulterous which doesnt fit with Sakka or Indra. And Poseidón is the God of the sea, is there a similar God in buddhism? Does he really rules the sea? Also Zeus, Poseidón and Hades in greek mithology are brothers, but doesnt fit with buddhism this assumption.
It's unlikely there'd be Buddhist equivalent to those Greek gods. The Devas in the Kama-Loka realms were reborn there due to certain level of mastery in the Ten Wholesome actions, Generosity, and development of Virtue and Wisdom ( see the "Cause of Rebirth Here" column on those tables ). Hence they probably would find even the most beautiful woman on earth way too coarse/crude, and unattractive to their taste to make them descending from their heavens to have sex with ( unlike Zeus, who had sex with multiple female earthlings ).
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My knowledge of this is limited to Xena: Warrior Princess, so I probably shouldn't comment. Or should I?
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mario92 wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:52 am Hello all i want to ask a question in greek mithology there is Zeus which is very similar to Indra, is Zeus a copy of Indra or he just really exists in other galaxy? Also Zeus is portrayed like adulterous which doesnt fit with Sakka or Indra.


I think it's impossible for us to say whether they are literally one and the same being, labelled and conceived differently by different cultures. Because we don't even know whether such beings exist - we have to take it on faith. The most we can say is that the name Zeus is probably cognate with the word deva, and also juti: brightness, splendour, preeminence. People could be labelling the same type of thing or experience with a similar word.

I think the important thing within our practice is that these are qualities which can actually be realised by humans like us:

khīṇāsavā jutimanto, te loke parinibbutā - Those with defilements destroyed, full of brightness, they attain nibbana in this world.

(Dhp. 89)
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The gods of the Greeks are the myths that make up western civilization. History has to begin with some prehistoric myth, whether individually or collectively. The birth of a myth constitutes the formation of memory, or a movement from ignorance to knowledge. The older myth would continue to haunt and daunt modern times while providing a sense of purpose to overcome it.
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Bundokji wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:58 pm The gods of the Greeks are the myths that make up western civilization. History has to begin with some prehistoric myth, whether individually or collectively. The birth of a myth constitutes the formation of memory, or a movement from ignorance to knowledge. The older myth would continue to haunt and daunt modern times while providing a sense of purpose to overcome it.
Yes i think some myths or all have been modified by humans.
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mario92 wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:00 pm Yes i think some myths or all have been modified by humans.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"

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mario92 wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:52 am Hello all i want to ask a question in greek mithology there is Zeus which is very similar to Indra, is Zeus a copy of Indra or he just really exists in other galaxy? Also Zeus is portrayed like adulterous which doesnt fit with Sakka or Indra. And Poseidón is the God of the sea, is there a similar God in buddhism? Does he really rules the sea? Also Zeus, Poseidón and Hades in greek mithology are brothers, but doesnt fit with buddhism this assumption.
Hi Mario, are you familiar with the nikāyas?


' When I took my first Vipassana course, I wasn’t familiar with the nikāyas, and whenever S.N. Goenka mentioned these beings, as he frequently does during his taped discourses and chanting, I had no idea what he was talking about. It wasn’t until I read Story’s essays, particularly “Of Gods and Men” and “Gods and Their Place in Buddhism,” that I not only began to accept their existence, but the theologies of all other religions suddenly made sense.

The Greek and Roman gods, deities of the Hindu pantheon, spirits of the Native Americans, djinns, demons, seraphim, cherubim, Yahweh, and Allah — they all fit within Buddhist cosmology as beings in one of the thirty-one planes of existence in which rebirth takes place.

As Story reasons, “It is probable that the more primitive religions originated from contact with the lower Devas, while the higher religions, or the higher forms that evolved from the primitive, owe their inspiration to yogic experience of the Brahma worlds.” '


https://www.lionsroar.com/francis-story ... r-rebirth/
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Mahabrahma wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:47 am My knowledge of this is limited to Xena: Warrior Princess, so I probably shouldn't comment. Or should I?
The woman who played Xena was in a Spartacus series. She wasn't really on the good side, but she looked good doing it.
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mario92 wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:52 am Hello all i want to ask a question in greek mithology there is Zeus which is very similar to Indra, is Zeus a copy of Indra or he just really exists in other galaxy? Also Zeus is portrayed like adulterous which doesnt fit with Sakka or Indra. And Poseidón is the God of the sea, is there a similar God in buddhism? Does he really rules the sea? Also Zeus, Poseidón and Hades in greek mithology are brothers, but doesnt fit with buddhism this assumption.
When the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians and other polytheist societies met each other they agreed that their gods were all the same. They just had different names, save some that were unique to each. This made them more tolerant of other religions than the Abrahamic monotheists.
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mario92 wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:52 am Hello all i want to ask a question in greek mithology there is Zeus which is very similar to Indra, is Zeus a copy of Indra or he just really exists in other galaxy? Also Zeus is portrayed like adulterous which doesnt fit with Sakka or Indra. And Poseidón is the God of the sea, is there a similar God in buddhism? Does he really rules the sea? Also Zeus, Poseidón and Hades in greek mithology are brothers, but doesnt fit with buddhism this assumption.
Personally I’m open to omnitheism
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I would say concept is quite similar and the details are so different.
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I'm officially changing the subject line. Mithology is not a word.
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