Getting the diverged one back to senses

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Neo
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Getting the diverged one back to senses

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If someone for some reasons, is getting lost to defiled accumulation path then only possible path left for non enlightened companions to make that person come back is via punishments (thukaai, kutaai).
But this should be given by equal or higher beings to that one, atleast in terms of characteristics & qualities otherwise it would become worse.

Eg. Put him under a big blanket at night and then punches, and kicks with laughs, reciting how he has fallen!
(Raat ko kambal mein band Karo aur thokey jao, thokey jao, thokey jao, deh laat, deh ghoosein) 😂

For this
Neo wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:30 amCompanions are required, place .. .
Another way without companions could be to puch, kick mind either with Buddha's vibes and words but when Buddha is not there, food may help.

Having no food, no shelter for days -- these sentences can be put up or asked or realised in mind..
now tell where are those defilements, now tell - which sensual pleasure can heal/treat you without food. Now tell which beauty can please you, now tell you ignorant poor, ugly looking, foul smelling, useless fellow, fu*k acceptor bas*d.. you can't survive like this and yet were asking for all those pleasings
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Few years back, I tried quoted above once but as soon as food or shelter came, it again gets trapped into
Neo wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:23 am ..
if infinite birth/death, infinite universe creation/destruction, if infinite everything & nothing then why not indulge in this impermanence only, if there is a problem then there is a remedy, let's enjoy either from back or from front - doesn't matter, let's accept everything. Why to raise for this kingship?
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...you can't survive like this and yet were asking for all those pleasings...
What could be the path to come back for the one who can survive? Or it's not possible?
How much importance of dependence food plays out?
Who all are there surviving without food and still engaged in pleasures?
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Re: Getting the diverged one back to senses

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Neo wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:13 am ..
if infinite birth/death, infinite universe creation/destruction, if infinite everything & nothing then why not indulge in this impermanence only, if there is a problem then there is a remedy, let's enjoy either from back or from front - doesn't matter, let's accept everything. Why to raise for this kingship?
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Doing the same thing again and again as if you have no value!
Neo wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:08 pm ..
Do you like to do same thing again and again, for uncountable number of times?

Do you, after a certain break, again want to continue to do same?

Craving is such. It sticks and tries to grab mind by covering it in such a way that it does like above.

Mind tries to find uncountable solutions to uncountable problems arise due to cravings.

Like a repeated GenJutsu from "Naruto Anime", you remain in a state of craved action.

When awareness starts coming, we start feeling disturbed by going for cravings.
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Unable to protect the loved ones forever and loved ones also changing!
Remaining low to someone, somewhere, sometime!

That's why, path valid for everyone is n8fp, 10 establishments noble path, worthy to follow and worthy to do.

Back to basics, remember where and why it was all started!
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Re: Getting the diverged one back to senses

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useless post .. give my 10 second back
I may be slow learner but im at least learning...
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