Origin of the phrase "Life is Suffering"

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Yeah -
Although u detailed is about 2nd noble truth.
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Life is equivalent to existence . What is dukkha ? This whole mass of suffering .
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freedom wrote: Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:59 pm Clinging is one of the origins (causes) of suffering (Dependent Origination). Short form of the first noble truth: "the five aggregates subject to clinging are suffering" SN56.11
Which means that the goal is to remove clinging to, and identification with, the aggregates. No longer regarding the aggregates as "me" and "mine".
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Bakmoon wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:29 pm I just wondered when did this phrase first get used. It turns up a lot in misconceptions about Buddhism, but I have no idea where it originally came from. I don't think it would be from a translation as there really isn't any phrase that could be translated like that. I would guess it's probably from one of those really inaccurate 19th century books about Buddhism but I don't have any particulars in mind.
I think that "Life is Suffering" is a result of buddhism originating from religions that teach rebirth. To avoid getting attached to the idea of a future "good rebirth" life as such has to be equated with suffering.
Not being affected by the same cultural environment buddhism has been affected we can have certainty that suffering is an aspect of life but life as such isn't suffering. Suffering is merely an occasional evidence of misunderstanding.
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asahi wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:26 am Life is equivalent to existence...
Which means birth.
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mjaviem wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:03 pm
asahi wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:26 am Life is equivalent to existence...
Which means birth.
The whole of paticcasamuppada explains life and suffering , not just one factor jati.
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justindesilva wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:31 am
mjaviem wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:03 pm
asahi wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:26 am Life is equivalent to existence...
Which means birth.
The whole of paticcasamuppada explains life and suffering , not just one factor jati.
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