Keeping muscles strong?
Keeping muscles strong?
I spent a few weeks meditating. Afterwards my legs were so weak. It took some weeks to get the strength back again. The general strength was reduced, too. That is not an overwhelming surprise. But what do you or what would you do, to avoid this?
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It is important to practice walking meditation to combine with sitting practice.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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That's what I did.
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Try running or jogging outdoor for 45-60 minutes, at least 2-3 times a week, and you'll regain your legs in a few weeks.
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Buddhist monks can walk long distances, but a monk did mention to me he doesn't jog because he's a monk. I didn't understand the reason for that rule, if it a rule?? 

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Jogging down the high street wouldn't be in line with the restrained behaviour in public places enjoined by the sekhiya rules. On the other hand, since it wouldn't be any offence to do so on monastery grounds, presumably the monk means that it's not a customary thing for monks to do and would likely attract criticism.Slowlearner5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:16 am Buddhist monks can walk long distances, but a monk did mention to me he doesn't jog because he's a monk. I didn't understand the reason for that rule, if it a rule??
Anabhirati kho, āvuso, imasmiṃ dhammavinaye dukkhā, abhirati sukhā.
“To not delight in this dhammavinaya, friend, is painful; to delight in it is bliss.”
(Sukhasutta, AN 10:66)
“To not delight in this dhammavinaya, friend, is painful; to delight in it is bliss.”
(Sukhasutta, AN 10:66)
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Is yoga acceptable?Dhammanando wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:37 amJogging down the high street wouldn't be in line with the restrained behaviour in public places enjoined by the sekhiya rules. On the other hand, since it wouldn't be any offence to do so on monastery grounds, presumably the monk means that it's not a customary thing for monks to do and would likely attract criticism.Slowlearner5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:16 am Buddhist monks can walk long distances, but a monk did mention to me he doesn't jog because he's a monk. I didn't understand the reason for that rule, if it a rule??
If it were not for yoga I would never be able to meditate for more than 1 hour without feeling numbness and pain.
Eyes downcast, not footloose,
senses guarded, with protected mind,
not oozing — not burning — with lust,
wander alone
like a rhinoceros.
Sutta Nipāta 1.3 - Khaggavisana Sutta

See, Ānanda! All those conditioned phenomena have passed, ceased, and perished. So impermanent are conditions, so unstable are conditions, so unreliable are conditions. This is quite enough for you to become disillusioned, dispassionate, and freed regarding all conditions.
Dīgha Nikāya 17
senses guarded, with protected mind,
not oozing — not burning — with lust,
wander alone
like a rhinoceros.
Sutta Nipāta 1.3 - Khaggavisana Sutta

See, Ānanda! All those conditioned phenomena have passed, ceased, and perished. So impermanent are conditions, so unstable are conditions, so unreliable are conditions. This is quite enough for you to become disillusioned, dispassionate, and freed regarding all conditions.
Dīgha Nikāya 17
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Nobody would object if a monk practised yoga in the privacy of his own room, but in some monasteries it wouldn't be acceptable to do it in public view.
Even jogging is allowed in certain monasteries. I don't know if they still do, but in the 1980s some of the Chithurst monks used to go jogging in the nearby woods, including the then abbot, Ajahn Sumedho.
Anabhirati kho, āvuso, imasmiṃ dhammavinaye dukkhā, abhirati sukhā.
“To not delight in this dhammavinaya, friend, is painful; to delight in it is bliss.”
(Sukhasutta, AN 10:66)
“To not delight in this dhammavinaya, friend, is painful; to delight in it is bliss.”
(Sukhasutta, AN 10:66)
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Thanks Bhante.Dhammanando wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:09 amNobody would object if a monk practised yoga in the privacy of his own room, but in some monasteries it wouldn't be acceptable to do it in public view.
Even jogging is allowed in certain monasteries. I don't know if they still do, but in the 1980s some of the Chithurst monks used to go jogging in the nearby woods, including the then abbot, Ajahn Sumedho.
This body of ours is a burden. If we don't move it it gets stiff and unhealthy, which hinders the practice.

Eyes downcast, not footloose,
senses guarded, with protected mind,
not oozing — not burning — with lust,
wander alone
like a rhinoceros.
Sutta Nipāta 1.3 - Khaggavisana Sutta

See, Ānanda! All those conditioned phenomena have passed, ceased, and perished. So impermanent are conditions, so unstable are conditions, so unreliable are conditions. This is quite enough for you to become disillusioned, dispassionate, and freed regarding all conditions.
Dīgha Nikāya 17
senses guarded, with protected mind,
not oozing — not burning — with lust,
wander alone
like a rhinoceros.
Sutta Nipāta 1.3 - Khaggavisana Sutta

See, Ānanda! All those conditioned phenomena have passed, ceased, and perished. So impermanent are conditions, so unstable are conditions, so unreliable are conditions. This is quite enough for you to become disillusioned, dispassionate, and freed regarding all conditions.
Dīgha Nikāya 17
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I see. I wondered though if the energetic upheaval and distraction by the jogging act would break any continuity in daily mindfulness, therefore it's not the direct path for a serious monk who may only have 50000 days to live, but maybe that's my imagination.Dhammanando wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:37 amJogging down the high street wouldn't be in line with the restrained behaviour in public places enjoined by the sekhiya rules. On the other hand, since it wouldn't be any offence to do so on monastery grounds, presumably the monk means that it's not a customary thing for monks to do and would likely attract criticism.Slowlearner5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:16 am Buddhist monks can walk long distances, but a monk did mention to me he doesn't jog because he's a monk. I didn't understand the reason for that rule, if it a rule??
Anyway just thought of a Japanese marathoner inspired by zen marathon monks if it holds any learning, and how it attracted one of the first Kenyan star marathoners which I'm sure inspired their athletes, I found this
http://moti-athletics-histo.blogspot.co ... s.html?m=1
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Personally I think travelling long distances by foot has benefits for aspirants such as physical purification, and for me developing concentration. And you do hear of famous monks travelling town to town by foot so I think this aspect is little understood and possibly missed. I walked a week of the Camina walk in Spain, and the pain involved say after 3 hours left me with no free energy for thinking, thus focussing on the steps, the body, the obvious breath, the sights smells, and there were internal pleasant objects, opening refreshing calming objects too. Perhaps an intensive for concentration. That led me back to more jogging and returning to meditation for the new body awareness opening up and the concentration. Just saying in case it's helpful.
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Join a gym and do resistance training.
Paññaṃ nappamajjeyya, saccamanurakkheyya, cāgamanubrūheyya, santimeva so sikkheyyā’ti
“One should not neglect wisdom, should preserve truth, cultivate relinquishment and train for peace.”
Dhātuvibhaṅga Sutta
“One should not neglect wisdom, should preserve truth, cultivate relinquishment and train for peace.”
Dhātuvibhaṅga Sutta
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I've read about Ajahn Sumedho using a rowing machine very regularly - I'd be impressed if he still does at his age! I've seen the treadmill in Ajahn Pasanno's "office" and I vaguely recall him talking about using it. Those are two examples of monks of many vassas "working out."
The Buddha himself said that walking meditation is good for fitness.
The Buddha himself said that walking meditation is good for fitness.
AN 5.29 wrote:Monks, there are these five benefits of walking up & down.[1] What five?
One is fit for long journeys; one is fit for striving; one has little disease; that which is eaten, drunk, chewed, tasted, goes through proper digestion; the composure attained by walking up & down is long-lasting.
These, monks, are the five benefits of walking up & down.
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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17. 'In six the world has originated, O Hemavata,' — so said Bhagavat, — 'with six it is intimate, by six the world is afflicted, after having grasped at six.' (168)
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Re: Keeping muscles strong?
I faced the same thing but gradually the pain passed away as progressed day after day.