Nibbana is bliss

[mjaviem]

In brief, the 108 mentioned in SN 36.22 are composed of:
[3 basic modes(pain/pleasure/neutral)] x [6 contacts(eye/ear/.../mind-contact)] x [6 sense objects(form/sound/...mind-object)] = 108
There's no distinction of mundane or supra-mundane feelings in SN 36.22 so one'd have to surmise the types mentioned in SN 45.12 is some supra-mundane version of SN 36.22.

I would surmise the same. I would say that this supramundane feeling has nothing in common with the feelings we could know which are explained in SN 36..22. I see this supramundane feeling so alien that I would use another word for it.

[santa100]

I would surmise the same. I would say that this supramundane feeling has nothing in common with the feelings we could know which are explained in SN 36..22. I see this supramundane feeling so alien that I would use another word for it.

Obviously something way beyond my paygrade...

[befriend]

Ajahn amaro gives a talk called "we need to talk about nibbana" he said the characteristics of nibbana are peace, joy and contentment. The talk is on YouTube it's very good.

[jc1990]

I have heard a bhikku taught me, nibbana parmang sukhang or nirvana is ultimate bliss.

[yinyangkoi]

I had a meditation experience where everything was gone, nothing was there. But at the same time, this nothing was everything at once. It was a special experience, because it felt like everything is complete. Like the ultimate peace, but at the same time it was nothing there. Then it was gone and ordinary life continued

[Ceisiwr]

I think it’s a figure of speech. If you consider that bliss isn’t there in the 4th Jhana, how is it there in nibbana?

[mjaviem]

I think it’s a figure of speech. If you consider that bliss isn’t there in the 4th Jhana, how is it there in nibbana?

I Agree, a figure of speech. A way of saying that all suffering, all problems, all lack, have gone away.

[wenjaforever]

Nirvana is beyond understanding. In the 1st heaven you never have to work not even a single day. In 2nd heaven you live like a king which includes a harem. Basically an anime dream. In 3rd heaven you can fly and have super strength. In 4th heaven you're in a constant state of ecstasy, basically a meth head dream come true. In 5th heaven you're a creator. In 6th heaven you have power over the creation of other beings. In 7th heaven which is the first jhanaloka you are telepathic and omniscient, you're also a shape shifter here.

[confusedlayman]

Nirvana is beyond understanding. In the 1st heaven you never have to work not even a single day. In 2nd heaven you live like a king which includes a harem. Basically an anime dream. In 3rd heaven you can fly and have super strength. In 4th heaven you're in a constant state of ecstasy, basically a meth head dream come true. In 5th heaven you're a creator. In 6th heaven you have power over the creation of other beings. In 7th heaven which is the first jhanaloka you are telepathic and omniscient, you're also a shape shifter here.

Shape shifter

[wenjaforever]

Shape shifter

How else do you explain the state of genderlessness?

[cappuccino]

How else do you explain the state of genderlessness?

androgynous

[wenjaforever]

androgynous

Do you really prefer being a sissy than being a shape shifter?

[wenjaforever]

Nope, that's considered a huge asset here in the states, hence the expression. No idea about Indonesia though. Never been there. Might be on the list for next travel destination..

I was actually watching this video, that's why the shape shifter:

[cappuccino]

Nope, that's considered a huge asset here in the states, hence the expression.

Must you value what others value, avoid what others avoid? How silly!

Laozi

[santa100]

Nope, that's considered a huge asset here in the states, hence the expression.

Must you value what others value, avoid what others avoid? How silly!

Laozi

Hey, I didn't talk about me or what I value. I was talking about typical Western pop-culture norms and references.