Personality shift

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maniture_85
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Strive4Karuna wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:05 pm
maniture_85 wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:37 am I'd like to share some toughts and experiences i'm having this period, any comment is welcome.
One day i noticed that my chest and abdomen, which i Always feel somehow sick because of bad senstions ( and long run anxiety ), were free from any kind of suffering.
This period is lasting a lot, like a couple of weeks.
The point is that i feel a different person. I'm having a boost in mindfulness which manifests itself clearly in many situations, even if i'm not practicing mindfulness. I have many pleasant "flashbacks" of my adolescence and i feel the same happiness and energy. I can have kind of sad toughts without being sad, having a better understanding and a different view of the topic.
Ego looks particularly reduced, and i often notice when i'm acting guided by ego.
I no longer care about judgements.
Sometimes i'm noticing a new meditation effect while practicing. Chest and abdomen feels void of any sensation or vibration, and the body feels composed by small synchronized particles. Air pressure on the skin is particularly clear, because body borders are so thin that looks not existent.
Sometimes i cannot feel difference between me and the air or the surrounding area.
Sometimes I feel space distorsions, and clearly remember i had this kind of sensation in my childhood, i often had this kind of experience ( at time i was very fashinated by it and i used to investigate it ).
I'm surprised to have noticed that this experience has something in common with those childhood experiences.
Do you have experienced something similar?

Depression and anxiety looks significantly reduced or almost disappeared ( confirmed by a specialist ): it started reducing a couple of months ago and greatly reduced after those meditation experiences.
My parents always said that youth is the best part of life, and the rest is suffering.
I realized it is because so many of us become sick because of ego and bad views. The void i'm experimenting in my daily life makes me able to better feel what i like to do, what is a bad word or a good word, a good action or a bad action. I know when i'm doing something bad/stupid which will bring me suffering. All this knowledge is contained in ourself, and it can explicate itself naturally when we are in a state of peace. In my case, i noticed most important vibrations and sensations comes from chest, abdomen, face, head and back.
It is like a kind of wisdom which naturally explicates itself from the immaterial world to the material world through vibrations, and guides you to make good actions for the good of you and others.
I also realized that true love is possible only if we are in a peaceful state.

One thing worries me a bit. Of course there are times when meditation are not that good and chest and abdomen's emptiness is broken by some bad sensation or from something i started to crave, and i'm no longer able to control those sensations. When it occurs, i feel i'm no longer able to sustain a good tought which i were able to sustain. For example, a friend did a very bad thing to me, but i struggle to feel compassion for him. It looks to me that those bad sensations which sometimes manifests are like a kind of illness, and when i cannot control them then bad actions or bad toughts can take place. It means i'm actually a different person when i have this suffering condition.
It’s not called a personality shift, your just NORMAL like everybody else.

You do things because you CRAVE pleasant feelings.

Your NoT GOOD okay?? You DO things because they make you feel PLEASANT or think will lead to a pleasant feeling in the future.

That’s it.
Nice post to read in the heart of the night, strive4Karuna.
I'm glad this topic is getting this kind of attention.

You can be sure any of your words will not move my mind for more than a few seconds.
I'm not sure about the intentions behind your post.
But if you know what you're talking about, then it's even more funny :-)
Strive4Karuna
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Re: Personality shift

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maniture_85 wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:03 am
Strive4Karuna wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:05 pm
maniture_85 wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:37 am I'd like to share some toughts and experiences i'm having this period, any comment is welcome.
One day i noticed that my chest and abdomen, which i Always feel somehow sick because of bad senstions ( and long run anxiety ), were free from any kind of suffering.
This period is lasting a lot, like a couple of weeks.
The point is that i feel a different person. I'm having a boost in mindfulness which manifests itself clearly in many situations, even if i'm not practicing mindfulness. I have many pleasant "flashbacks" of my adolescence and i feel the same happiness and energy. I can have kind of sad toughts without being sad, having a better understanding and a different view of the topic.
Ego looks particularly reduced, and i often notice when i'm acting guided by ego.
I no longer care about judgements.
Sometimes i'm noticing a new meditation effect while practicing. Chest and abdomen feels void of any sensation or vibration, and the body feels composed by small synchronized particles. Air pressure on the skin is particularly clear, because body borders are so thin that looks not existent.
Sometimes i cannot feel difference between me and the air or the surrounding area.
Sometimes I feel space distorsions, and clearly remember i had this kind of sensation in my childhood, i often had this kind of experience ( at time i was very fashinated by it and i used to investigate it ).
I'm surprised to have noticed that this experience has something in common with those childhood experiences.
Do you have experienced something similar?

Depression and anxiety looks significantly reduced or almost disappeared ( confirmed by a specialist ): it started reducing a couple of months ago and greatly reduced after those meditation experiences.
My parents always said that youth is the best part of life, and the rest is suffering.
I realized it is because so many of us become sick because of ego and bad views. The void i'm experimenting in my daily life makes me able to better feel what i like to do, what is a bad word or a good word, a good action or a bad action. I know when i'm doing something bad/stupid which will bring me suffering. All this knowledge is contained in ourself, and it can explicate itself naturally when we are in a state of peace. In my case, i noticed most important vibrations and sensations comes from chest, abdomen, face, head and back.
It is like a kind of wisdom which naturally explicates itself from the immaterial world to the material world through vibrations, and guides you to make good actions for the good of you and others.
I also realized that true love is possible only if we are in a peaceful state.

One thing worries me a bit. Of course there are times when meditation are not that good and chest and abdomen's emptiness is broken by some bad sensation or from something i started to crave, and i'm no longer able to control those sensations. When it occurs, i feel i'm no longer able to sustain a good tought which i were able to sustain. For example, a friend did a very bad thing to me, but i struggle to feel compassion for him. It looks to me that those bad sensations which sometimes manifests are like a kind of illness, and when i cannot control them then bad actions or bad toughts can take place. It means i'm actually a different person when i have this suffering condition.
It’s not called a personality shift, your just NORMAL like everybody else.

You do things because you CRAVE pleasant feelings.

Your NoT GOOD okay?? You DO things because they make you feel PLEASANT or think will lead to a pleasant feeling in the future.

That’s it.
Nice post to read in the heart of the night, strive4Karuna.
I'm glad this topic is getting this kind of attention.

You can be sure any of your words will not move my mind for more than a few seconds.
I'm not sure about the intentions behind your post.
But if you know what you're talking about, then it's even more funny :-)
Honestly, do I know what I’m talking about? That is up to you to decide.

As wise as i think I am, honestly, compared to those I like to call “true monks”, those who do not break a rule of the vinaya and do not waste their time

I’m a young puppy on the road

Don’t take my word. There are better words out there.

Develop your ability to Discern what words are real and what is fake.

Especially on the Internet, where anybody can make any claim to be anything or know anything.
maniture_85
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Re: Personality shift

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Strive4Karuna wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:13 am
maniture_85 wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:03 am
Strive4Karuna wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:05 pm
It’s not called a personality shift, your just NORMAL like everybody else.

You do things because you CRAVE pleasant feelings.

Your NoT GOOD okay?? You DO things because they make you feel PLEASANT or think will lead to a pleasant feeling in the future.

That’s it.
Nice post to read in the heart of the night, strive4Karuna.
I'm glad this topic is getting this kind of attention.

You can be sure any of your words will not move my mind for more than a few seconds.
I'm not sure about the intentions behind your post.
But if you know what you're talking about, then it's even more funny :-)
Honestly, do I know what I’m talking about? That is up to you to decide.

As wise as i think I am, honestly, compared to those I like to call “true monks”, those who do not break a rule of the vinaya and do not waste their time

I’m a young puppy on the road

Don’t take my word. There are better words out there.

Develop your ability to Discern what words are real and what is fake.

Especially on the Internet, where anybody can make any claim to be anything or know anything.
Monks may suffer of conceit. I think it is natural considering their role.
I know some monks can act for the bad moved by this emotion.
Being young or old doesn't have much importance as far as i know.
I appreciated your last advice, it is a good and helpful one.
Strive4Karuna
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Re: Personality shift

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maniture_85 wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:24 am
Strive4Karuna wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:13 am
maniture_85 wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:03 am

Nice post to read in the heart of the night, strive4Karuna.
I'm glad this topic is getting this kind of attention.

You can be sure any of your words will not move my mind for more than a few seconds.
I'm not sure about the intentions behind your post.
But if you know what you're talking about, then it's even more funny :-)
Honestly, do I know what I’m talking about? That is up to you to decide.

As wise as i think I am, honestly, compared to those I like to call “true monks”, those who do not break a rule of the vinaya and do not waste their time

I’m a young puppy on the road

Don’t take my word. There are better words out there.

Develop your ability to Discern what words are real and what is fake.

Especially on the Internet, where anybody can make any claim to be anything or know anything.
Monks may suffer of conceit. I think it is natural considering their role.
I know some monks can act for the bad moved by this emotion.
Being young or old doesn't have much importance as far as i know.
I appreciated your last advice, it is a good and helpful one.
Conceit exist in everyone, Anagamin have trouble releasing the fetter.

The conceit in an Anagamin is harmless to everybody around them.

Honestly, conceit, no conceit, just a view. It is how that view affects our life, that’s what’s important.

If you have trouble figuring out whether what you hear is true or not always remember this.

Always look at what that person Does, not Say. If you watch long enough you can spot the real ones easy.

A little harder on DW though
maniture_85
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Re: Personality shift

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Strive4Karuna wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:07 am

Conceit exist in everyone, Anagamin have trouble releasing the fetter.

The conceit in an Anagamin is harmless to everybody around them.

Honestly, conceit, no conceit, just a view. It is how that view affects our life, that’s what’s important.

If you have trouble figuring out whether what you hear is true or not always remember this.

Always look at what that person Does, not Say. If you watch long enough you can spot the real ones easy.

A little harder on DW though
Can you please provide me in PM some online reference regarding your second sentence?
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Strive4Karuna wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:07 am
Always look at what that person Does, not Say. If you watch long enough you can spot the real ones easy.
:goodpost:
Joy at last to know there is no happiness in the world!
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Re: Personality shift

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Deadelectronics wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:51 pm
Strive4Karuna wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:07 am
Always look at what that person Does, not Say. If you watch long enough you can spot the real ones easy.
:goodpost:
I agree, it is good posting.
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Re: Personality shift

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Strive4Karuna wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:13 am
... As wise as i think I am, honestly, compared to those I like to call “true monks”, those who do not break a rule of the vinaya and do not waste their time

By the way, i'm of a similar opinion.
But at the end, every being is imperfect, every group, has its own tendencies and defilements.
No need to be so explicit with your evaluations, if you understand what i mean, as it produces no good friuts.
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