Karmic effect of pornography

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Re: Karmic effect of pornography

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Not pretend to be "holier than thou", I think 99% men in the world (that included me) with access to internet got to deal with this problem during certain stage of life.

All I can say is "good luck" to you.

Maybe try viewing Buddha-related images instead of "sus" pictures. Wish you all the best overcome the addiction.

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HonestSeeker wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:19 pm Yes but it’s still once a week and it bothers me since it’s as if my mind is so obsessed with it once a week
Well, i would take a moment to reflect on the fact that you are viewing it less so your practice is working. Sensual desire can be a tricky one, and it's not really fully given up until the stage of non-return. My advice would be to keep doing what you are doing. Maintain virtue, keep working on sense restraint and practice foulness meditation. In time you will naturally want to view it less and less than you do now, until eventually you won't watch it at all. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Remember dhammas arise and cease according to conditions. Different dhammas have different nourishment. Keep nourishing the good dhammas and starving the bad, then overtime the bad will fade. You did say however you are in a sexual relationship, so perhaps foulness wouldn't be apt and instead just virtue and sense restraint.
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Try to be aware where seeking pleasure in sensuality is a perversion? this would highlight how our solutions are often driven by other perversions:
"Monks, there are these four perversions of perception, perversions of mind, perversions of view. Which four? 'Constant' with regard to the inconstant is a perversion of perception, a perversion of mind, a perversion of view. 'Pleasant' with regard to the stressful... 'Self' with regard to not-self... 'Attractive' with regard to the unattractive is a perversion of perception, a perversion of mind, a perversion of view. These are the four perversions of perception, perversions of mind, perversions of view.
In other words, sensuality is presented to us as both a problem and solution. Another aspect to this is that the practice itself is often presented as an existential commitment where seeking sensuality is a deviation from the goal. Right effort is a goal oriented effort, there is no going around that!

Speculating about the Karmic effects of our actions is not a good idea. Deepening our understanding of what the Buddha is teaching us is a gradual process.
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I guess I have to be patient with this practice, sometimes just saying that I’m doing this and just not making so secretive itself is healing, I’m in relationship but she thinks this porn thing is nothing and isn’t even bothered, but that view is from the standpoint of one who doesn’t practice at all , anyways I thank you for all your time taken to give me advice, I just have to be patient with this I guess.
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HonestSeeker wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:32 pm I guess I have to be patient with this practice, sometimes just saying that I’m doing this and just not making so secretive itself is healing, I’m in relationship but she thinks this porn thing is nothing and isn’t even bothered, but that view is from the standpoint of one who doesn’t practice at all , anyways I thank you for all your time taken to give me advice, I just have to be patient with this I guess.
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If in a sexual relationship I advise not to practice foulness. If not done correctly then at best it will work in a way you may regret and cause big problems in the relationship, and at worst it will result in aversion towards the partner. It is an advanced practice.

As Ceisiwr says practice virtue and sense restraint and see the danger in what you are doing.
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NoFap

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What is porn addiction?
https://nofap.com/porn-addiction/

World Health Organization recognizes compulsive porn use
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NoFap was founded in June 2012 by Pittsburgh web developer Alexander Rhodes after reading a thread on Reddit about a 2003 Chinese study,[18][19] which claimed that men who refrain from masturbation for seven days experience a 145.7% spike in testosterone levels on the seventh day. This hit the front page of a popular forum on Reddit.[20] The website states that some NoFap participants aim to "improve their interpersonal relationships", do a "challenge of willpower – to seize control of your sexuality and turn it into superpowers", but always with the goal of being able to "abstain from PMO (porn/masturbation/orgasm)."[5] The expression fap is an onomatopoeic Internet slang term for male masturbation that first appeared in the 1999 web comic Sexy Losers to indicate the sound of a male character masturbating.[5]

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HonestSeeker wrote:Please give me advice, I have tried noting that this is not myself and it is likely caused by previous actions in the past , yet it doesn’t help break the habit.
Not the most optimal solution, but if you already have a partner, then simply spend most of your "energy" on her so that you'd have nothing left for the other "activity". Never know, you might make her a very happy woman! But, a better approach is mimic how cigarette smokers quit their habit. They don't just cut it off entirely all of a sudden. They use nicotine patches and chewing gums first. So, you could try similar tactic, take gradual steps: go from harcore porn to softcore, then to regular romantic comedies, then to completely healthy films/documentary devoid of sensual love, etc. Also, the 5 tactics in MN 20 should also help.
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Try hiking
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Hey thanks I’ll try the technique in distracting thoughts sutta that you mentioned , I didn’t know about this teaching.
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masturbating and porngraphy is very bad, leaded me to suffering. I advice you to get married if you can't stop masturbating. or if you don't want to get married, then don't masturbate. If you can't stop masturbating, then get married. if you don't want to get married because you plan to be a monk one day (like how I use to plan), then please get married, you can still be a monk after marriage. things will workout if you truely want to be a monk, but if you are not going to get married, pls don't masturbate. this is my advice.
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HonestSeeker wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:01 am Hello all,
I am hoping to have an honest answer to my question, I am usually doing a lot of metta practice and I help a lot of people and do a lot of good karma in daily life, But I do have problems though, I watch porn once a week. no matter how much I try to avoid this, I end up watching porn and playing stupid porn games on the internet, I don’t have any intention of harming anyone, and I keep trying to quit this bad habit by reading about how porn actors and actresses are being exploited so that I can develop compassion and stop doing this, but I end up watching porn regardless and it’s getting to a point where I’m just sick and tired and I’m probably making bad karma from this addiction. I sometimes feel like a cow being led to slaughter at the whims of the butcher of sensual desire. Please give me advice, I have tried noting that this is not myself and it is likely caused by previous actions in the past , yet it doesn’t help break the habit. Even 32 parts of the body meditation seems not helpful. Was hoping to get some advice from an experienced practitioner of dhamma
You have two options:

- Gradually develop repulsion towards sensual pleasures and develop jhanas, maybe heading towards celibacy or at least minimized engagement with sensuality.
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- Substitute the porn for finding a girlfriend and contain your desires for her alone, this at least limits the problem. Then try to still practice option one, albeit without the direction toward celibacy.

This picture probably isn't appropriate but I like it for option two as it's kind of funny
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Im not aware of any karmic effects of pornography in a sense that it causes peril the way breaking the 5 precepts does, so you can probably be a bit more calm regarding that. But just like all sensual pleasures it is unconstructive and bad for the mind. If you wish to stop there are support groups that can help. from a Buddhist point of view you can do things like meditate on the foulness of the human body. not just impermance and aging but also reflect upon gross things about the body itself, feces, urine, sweat, flatuelence, etc.

alternatively you can find a less unwholesome hobby to take up your time. non-pornographic video games for instance, or any hobby that isnt related which can work as an intermediary as you adjust off of it.
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I guess out of 168 hours in a given week of the time , I am involved in doing good kamma and right livelihood and right action for 96% of the time and only am involved in this unwholesome action 4% of time. So I am not going to worry about this. Thank you all for your help. I should just keep trying to change that 4% to 2% and then finally get rid of this terrible addiction. Pornography is terrible, I wish no one had to go through this ever, whether viewing or being viewed.
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HonestSeeker wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 11:46 am Pornography is terrible
Yes but you also think it’s great


You must merely convert yourself 100%
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