Gami47 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:00 pm
JamesTheGiant wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:54 pm
Gami47 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:48 pm
Need more information. What is the purpose of your meditation?
I would like to achieve the attainment of a lay anagami, what meditation/jhanas is needed? Thank You!
Take N8P seriously. See what exactly there is inside each step and manage your life and practice around this.
For example:
Right Intention is composed of non-ill-will, non-cruelty, renounciation. It means that you should practice, develop and mature : metta, karuna and 8 precepts.
Right Speach is composed of non-lie, non-gossip, etc. The most important here is gossip. And when we see what means gossip for the Buddha it means all lay discutions like tv, sport, politics, etc. The Buddha said that 'you bhikkhu should speak about Dhamma or practice noble silence (2nd jhana).
If we stop here that mean that you will loose all your lay social interactions, in other words you will experiance total seclusion in body and mind. And for the mind who is much conditioned by social interactions and sense stimulations - that means death... Death means fear and anxiety. If you are strong enough to see and experiance how your lay mind is dying, then be calm, open, patient and don't do stupid things that you will regret later.
With a lot of chances after your lay mind died, you will become a monk. Why? Because there is no reasons to work and waste one's humain life to get money if with 8 precepts and zero social life and reduction of greed you couldn't and wouldn't spend them on anything...
At this point you will arrive ar Right Livelihood and become a monk...
Don't take my words too seriously, but there is no possibility to cut corners - get some secret practice and become enlightened without struggle... More seriously you will take N8P more good spiritual results you will realise. But its not quick and maturation of spiritual qualities can take years and life spans...
Also don't fall into the trap of spiritual tanha.
There is two words for desire : tanha and chanda. Tanha is a source of suffering; chanda can be a source of success. The difference betweenthem is that : tanha is a derise for some result, while chanda is a desire for the process (taking delight in the process itself).
That means that if you will practice with the desire to become Anagami - you will create more suffering; but if you take delight in the practice of N8P itself... non-greed, non-hatred, non-delusion - then you will be free from suffering.
As said Ajahn Chah : if you let go little - then you get little freedom; if you let go a lot - then you get a lot of freedom.
As simple as that...
Some advices. Take what is useful for you
We don't live Samsara, Samsara is living us...
"Form, feelings, perceptions, formations, consciousness - don't care about us, we don't exist for them"