What stage was the Buddha when he was born?

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JamesTheGiant wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:32 am He was a regular non-enlightened worldling, with a colossal store of good kamma and good characteristics he had worked on for countless billions of lives.
Bodhisatta isn't ordinary. His mind is freed, not bound to corruptions what are leading to rebirth(he didn't reborn deluded)
When he experiences suffering or jhana bliss he isn't corrupted by it. Neither by the knowledge of that he has ended rebirth.
https://suttacentral.net/mn36/en/sujato?layout=sidebyside&reference=none&notes=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin wrote: The Buddha said this:
“Whoever has not given up the defilements—corruptions that lead to future lives and are hurtful, resulting in suffering and future rebirth, old age, and death—is deluded, I say.
For it’s not giving up the defilements that makes you deluded.
Its the defilements what are unable to arise in the future, not the person.
https://suttacentral.net/mn36/en/sujato?layout=sidebyside&reference=none&notes=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin wrote:Just as a palm tree with its crown cut off is incapable of further growth
in the same way, the Realized One has given up the defilements so they are unable to arise in the future.”
The samadhis and hurdles he did, its his usual meditation with foundations what he used to do. Its how you do good kamma.
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When a person can has sex and get offspring, what stage is he at?
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form wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:19 pm When a person can has sex and get offspring, what stage is he at?
We'd need to know a lot more about them then just how their sex life if going. :tongue:

Probably somewhere around 80% of the world's adult population has sexual relations at least on a somewhat regular basis.

They could be any where from regular worldling up to once-returner.
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I also think that Bodhisatta isn't an ordinary worldling.

As i understand, to merely start the work of a Bodhisatta one needs enough parami to easily become Ariya in the dispensation of another Buddha, they instead forfeit that opportunity in order to develop perfections.

Therefore i think it's kind of like comparing a bodily witness, one freed by faith and one attained to view;
“In this matter, Sāriputta, it’s not easy to definitively declare that one of these three people is finest. In some cases, a person who is freed by faith is practicing for perfection, while the personal witness and the one attained to view are once-returners or non-returners.

In this matter, it’s not easy to definitively declare that one of these three people is finest. In some cases, a personal witness is practicing for perfection, while the one freed by faith and the one attained to view are once-returners or non-returners.

In this matter, it’s not easy to definitively declare that one of these three people is finest. In some cases, one attained to view is practicing for perfection, while the one freed by faith and the personal witness are once-returners or non-returners.
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i thought he came from Tusita heaven to his mother's womb
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It is probably better to analyse from viewing him as a human than a mystical figure.
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