Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:18 pm
More from Loppön Malcolm Smith:
The notion of chakras, nadis, vayus, etc., comes from Ayurveda, actually, so also a medical view of the body. The term “subtle body” does not have a true correlate in Sanskrit or Tibetan. The new age idea comes from 1) the Upanishadic idea of the five koshas 2) the theosophical interpretation of the cakras. That idea is not applicable to Buddhist notions of human anatomy.
In fact, the explanation of vayus, bindus, and nadis exists to explain the gestation of the human body in the womb, and is not some quasi physical system in parallel with physical body.
According to Loppön Malcolm Smith, there is no such thing as an immaterial "subtle body" in Buddhist Tantra. The word literally doesn't even exist in Tibetan. This is a term invented by orientalist Westerners, often those interpreting Eastern thought from the Vedas through the hermeneutics of theosophy. Subtle matter is still matter. It isn't immaterial pseudo-matter, or "quasi-physical" to use Smith's language: it's physical.
Tantra person(knowing reality) who attempts to see aura, will realize sambhogakaya(lightbody) and connects with the heart, instead of seeing the aura.
Tantra practice is done on a basic ground where there is no chakra yet formed. The location where the chakra would form is inaccurate when written down, the specific point will occur when there is enough vitality.
Also,
jing(generative force)--> qi(vitality) and if one has a model with three parts then it is jing-->qi-->shen
generative force becomes semen if it follows the worldly way. The urge to follow worldly way is purified by external breath, when you can gather the urge(generative force) it is called alchemical agent and then the generative force is transformed into the vitality(qi)
seed-->embryo-->spirit(coming out of the womb)
Taoist yoga wrote:According to Arthur Avalon(Sir John Woodroffe), an authority on Tantric yoga, some modern pundits tend to misplace the psychic centers or cavities in the body. I would urge readers to guard against these arbitrary speculations. When they have made real progress in their practice of Taoist yoga, they will automatically know where in the body these psychic centers really are, for the latter usually feel warm when the inner fire passes through them during its circulation in the microcosmic orbit.
It is harmful to pinpoint places in body, the very idea of which should be relinquished since it hinders the course of the inner fire and of vitality.
in case of chakras in Theosophy(first search option),