How to stop porn addiction?

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StrivingforMonkhood wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:06 pm
confusedlayman wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:03 am Im in mid 20s and im celibate.. but i have urge .. whatever happens even heart explodes.. i still dont want intercourse... it pains my pe*nus
Sex is ultimately silly and empty, like all worldly pleasures. It's not that it's terrible or bad, when it's consensual, unless it's with a married person. But, ultimately, even sex in a committed relationship is ultimately delusional (again, not immoral, though)

I am happy for you that you see this reality rather clearly at your young age.

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So in real life

Its not exotic as they show in internet?
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confusedlayman wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:44 pm So in real life

Its not exotic as they show in internet?
What if it was?


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cappuccino wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:47 pm
confusedlayman wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:44 pm So in real life

Its not exotic as they show in internet?
What if it was?


Nirvana is still better

No, it makes no difference if it were...

@confusedlayment: if you can be celibate without going crazy, then you are making good progress

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I still struggle with this defilement as well.
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AGT Host Terry Crews Opens Up About Drastic Steps He Took to Cut Pornography From His Life Forever

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/entertainm ... fe-forever


Terry Crews on Porn Addiction



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Perceiving … attractiveness in the unattractive

beings, destroyed by wrong-view, go mad, out of their minds.



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Gami47 wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:39 pm:namaste:
The simple answer is simply stop. Watch the mind, and when it goes to the object of desire, bring it to the breath and focus on the breath, then say a little mantra on impermanence, or more specifically decay, maranusati

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Cittasanto wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:24 pm
Gami47 wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:39 pm:namaste:
The simple answer is simply stop. Watch the mind, and when it goes to the object of desire, bring it to the breath and focus on the breath, then say a little mantra on impermanence, or more specifically decay, maranusati

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Or to reflect the dangers and backwards, especially "Am I still capable to act like an animal, act even harmful"? and that google and facebook will soon publish videos or one: e.g. always aware that the governing principles are near and watch => shame.

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auto wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:04 pm
Pondera wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:14 am Every time you masturbate you expel semen and create a deficit in your testes which the body recognizes and responds to by funneling whatever available testosterone you have into the process of filling that deficit.
semen outflow can be stopped. But since you can't do it yourself then you keep on talking about the above view..
Pondera wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:14 am Every time you restrain your self from spilling your juice, your body delegates other uses for the limited amount of testosterone in your body. It is used for muscle growth, bone growth, pheromone production.
here you mention 'every time you restrain yourself from spilling..' - you mean not-masturbating. But i could understand it that i can still masturbate and restrain spilling the semen.
I can do. I just prefer sex with a woman over sex with my dominant hand.

If you prefer to pleasure your self with your hand, by all means, please continue. In fact, why don’t you video tape it and send it to your friends and family. I’m sure they’d be proud of you.

There’s something to be said about someone who only does certain things in private 😎
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justindesilva wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:37 pm
Pondera wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:14 am Every time you masturbate you expel semen and create a deficit in your testes which the body recognizes and responds to by funneling whatever available testosterone you have into the process of filling that deficit.

Every time you restrain your self from spilling your juice, your body delegates other uses for the limited amount of testosterone in your body. It is used for muscle growth, bone growth, pheromone production.

Essentially, if you masturbate you are directly diminishing your chances of meeting an actual woman.

I look back eight years ago on the pathetic loser I was - glued to a screen of naked women while I pleasured my self with my own hand. What a joke.

Get a real partner or don’t do it at all.

PS. It gets easier to stop as you get older
Teenagers need not masterbate often , because spilling of seemen happens in dreams. As the urge for sex vanishes people start masterbating with what an effort.
Old people like me has no such urge . Can do away with proper meditation.
Same as me. I’m old. Masturbation is an embarrassment for me.
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bpallister wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:32 pm
Pondera wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:14 am Every time you masturbate you expel semen and create a deficit in your testes which the body recognizes and responds to by funneling whatever available testosterone you have into the process of filling that deficit.

Every time you restrain your self from spilling your juice, your body delegates other uses for the limited amount of testosterone in your body. It is used for muscle growth, bone growth, pheromone production.

Essentially, if you masturbate you are directly diminishing your chances of meeting an actual woman.

I look back eight years ago on the pathetic loser I was - glued to a screen of naked women while I pleasured my self with my own hand. What a joke.

Get a real partner or don’t do it at all.

PS. It gets easier to stop as you get older
what if you inject exogenous testosterone?
Then you have no choice but to masturbate! :jumping:
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Pondera wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:54 am I can do. I just prefer sex with a woman over sex with my dominant hand.

If you prefer to pleasure your self with your hand, by all means, please continue. In fact, why don’t you video tape it and send it to your friends and family. I’m sure they’d be proud of you.

There’s something to be said about someone who only does certain things in private 😎
I have posted the progression before. I can do mentally, when there is basis for it developed, urges, time for release. I see mental concomitant or whatever it is, it connects erotically, the sensation is not enough intense for it to manifest physically, but its same(not ogasm same, the craving release) what happens with copulation.
Nocturnal emissions doesn't happen, my mind and I(voluntarily) block the duct(mentally).
I said its possible to block seminal duct, if you don't see the potential progress here, then sure go nuts with the false allegations and imaginations in your posts. You just having a good time with your partner, i prefer making progress and evolve to subtle, which i already have and progression won't stop there.
So just comprehend how far you are from anything. I had a partner for couple years. Having a partner won't make you stop solo. I knew the semen stopping before i had a partner. Solo, blocking seminal duct, is better and can do 5x per day.

Perhaps it takes an investigative approach to it, to see potential progress, i don't know. If you say "I can do" its unclear that you even read my post, considering what you typed next "i prefer.. woman over the dominant hand". I think you are mocking. Or jelly, that you can't see mentally what happens during O-gasm. While you claim seeing colors, fake colors then. Go focus on red if it so good, why you still doing it with physical level.

Subtle mechanics are days different than physical. There is no O-gasm when can mentally or via sights, sounds. But result same.
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Thanissaro Bhikkhu wrote:
I don’t have internet access myself, but I’ve been told that the website luangta.com has a collection of pictures of dead and decomposing bodies as an aid in [body] contemplation. Traditionally, contemplation of the foulness of the body is done under the guidance of an experienced teacher, for if it’s done unskillfully it can lead to some very depressed and discouraged mental states.

A less traditional antidote to lust is to make a practice of universal good will [mettā]. One develops the habit, whenever seeing a picture of a person, of wishing that that person will find true inner peace. Once this becomes habitual, it becomes painful to look at pornographic pictures, for there’s extreme dissonance in seeing a person whose true happiness you desire engaged in such a demeaning activity.
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dhammapal wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:01 am
Thanissaro Bhikkhu wrote:
I don’t have internet access myself, but I’ve been told that the website luangta.com has a collection of pictures of dead and decomposing bodies as an aid in [body] contemplation. Traditionally, contemplation of the foulness of the body is done under the guidance of an experienced teacher, for if it’s done unskillfully it can lead to some very depressed and discouraged mental states.

A less traditional antidote to lust is to make a practice of universal good will [mettā]. One develops the habit, whenever seeing a picture of a person, of wishing that that person will find true inner peace. Once this becomes habitual, it becomes painful to look at pornographic pictures, for there’s extreme dissonance in seeing a person whose true happiness you desire engaged in such a demeaning activity.
wishful thinking.. there exist tribes who eat dead corpses.. they still multiply..
https://suttacentral.net/thag5.1/en/sujato?layout=sidebyside&reference=none&notes=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin wrote: Some men were disgusted,
Yañhi eke jigucchanti,
seeing her dead and rotten;
mataṁ disvāna pāpakaṁ;
but sexual desire arose in me,
Kāmarāgo pāturahu,
I was as if blind to her oozing body.
andhova savatī ahuṁ.
some might tell you to think females as your mothers and sisters..
https://suttacentral.net/an5.55/en/bodhi?reference=none&highlight=false wrote:On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s Park. Now on that occasion a mother and a son, being respectively a bhikkhunī and a bhikkhu, had entered the rains residence at Sāvatthī. They often wanted to see one another, the mother often wanting to see her son, and the son his mother. Because they often saw one another, a bond was formed; because a bond formed, intimacy arose; because there was intimacy, lust found an opening. With their minds in the grip of lust, without having given up the training and declared their weakness, they engaged in sexual intercourse.
I think people misinterpret asubha and what ayoniso manasikara is and base their methods on that wrong interpretations and spread these.. so easy to spread those no skill needed just watch ugly images, think badly of females etc.. imagine dhamma to work this way..

I think i go bang my head against the wall, its just that bad.
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auto wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:24 pm
Pondera wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:54 am I can do. I just prefer sex with a woman over sex with my dominant hand.

If you prefer to pleasure your self with your hand, by all means, please continue. In fact, why don’t you video tape it and send it to your friends and family. I’m sure they’d be proud of you.

There’s something to be said about someone who only does certain things in private 😎
I have posted the progression before. I can do mentally, when there is basis for it developed, urges, time for release. I see mental concomitant or whatever it is, it connects erotically, the sensation is not enough intense for it to manifest physically, but its same(not ogasm same, the craving release) what happens with copulation.
Nocturnal emissions doesn't happen, my mind and I(voluntarily) block the duct(mentally).
I said its possible to block seminal duct, if you don't see the potential progress here, then sure go nuts with the false allegations and imaginations in your posts. You just having a good time with your partner, i prefer making progress and evolve to subtle, which i already have and progression won't stop there.
So just comprehend how far you are from anything. I had a partner for couple years. Having a partner won't make you stop solo. I knew the semen stopping before i had a partner. Solo, blocking seminal duct, is better and can do 5x per day.

Perhaps it takes an investigative approach to it, to see potential progress, i don't know. If you say "I can do" its unclear that you even read my post, considering what you typed next "i prefer.. woman over the dominant hand". I think you are mocking. Or jelly, that you can't see mentally what happens during O-gasm. While you claim seeing colors, fake colors then. Go focus on red if it so good, why you still doing it with physical level.

Subtle mechanics are days different than physical. There is no O-gasm when can mentally or via sights, sounds. But result same.
Look. I should apologize. I have no right to pass judgment on you.

I have read your post and I think I’m starting to understand your position. You’re more about retaining semen by blocking the duct during orgasm. So, to be honest - I find that interesting. You’re probably 1 in 1000 who can do that.

I’ve been taking my personal views and pushing them on others. I don’t have the right to unequivocally say, “masturbation is wrong”. As if I didn’t practice it obsessively from age 12 to 35 !!!

I currently don’t do it because it’s not fair to my partner and (in some ways) it’s a form of cheating (looking at other women on the internet and pleasuring your self to those images is bad for the relationship). So for 5 years I haven’t done that. And I’m glad I got over the habit. I did it for so long I didn’t think there was ever a way to stop. But I did. Big deal. Doesn’t matter.

For a solitary person - like a monk, we have stories in the suttas where masturbation is explicitly defined as “wrong”. There’s the case of the monk who’s skin turned yellow if he didn’t masturbate. I’m actually too indifferent to find the sutta. It’s out there if you want to find it or if someone would like to link it.

Bottom line is I really don’t care what anyone does with their body. So, my apologies for being judgy.
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