thomaslaw wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:19 am
SN 37. Matugama Samyutta (34 suttas) is on destinies of women, which, however, has no corresponding Chinese SA Samyukta.
Why is this derisive? I find it on internet
http://www.suttas.com/chapter-3-matugam ... women.html
It say:
Bhikkhus, when a man possesses five factors he is extremely disagreeable to a woman. What five? He is not handsome, not wealthy, not virtuous; he is lethargic; and he does not beget children. When a man possesses these five factors he is extremely disagreeable to a woman.
It is derisive to men !!!!
It say:
She is without faith, shameless, unafraid of wrongdoing, angry, unwise. When a woman possesses these five qualities she is reborn in a state of misery ... in hell."
She abstains from the destruction of life, abstains from taking what is not given, abstains from sexual misconduct, abstains from false speech, abstains from wine, liquor, and intoxicants that cause negligence. When a woman possesses these five qualities, with the breakup of the body, after death, she is reborn in a good destination, in a heavenly world.
So u think someone angry, shameless, doing wrongdoing, unwise, intoxicants, life destruction, should go to heaven?
It said:
Bhikkhus, there are five powers of a woman. What are the five? The power of beauty, the power of wealth, the power of relatives, the power of sons, the power of virtue. These are the five powers of a woman. When a woman possesses these five powers, she dwells confident at home." When a woman possesses these five powers, she abides with her husband under her control.
So having husband udner her control, like wife of Mike66NZ have Mike66NZ under her control, is derisive to women?
It say:
If, bhikkhus, a woman possesses the power of virtue but not the power of wealth, they accommodate her in the family; they do not expel her. If, bhikkhus, a woman possesses the power of virtue but not the power of relatives, they accommodate her in the family; they do not expel her. If, bhikkhus, a woman possesses the power of virtue but not the power of sons, they accommodate her in the family; they do not expel her. These are the five powers of a woman."
So saying virtue is more important than beauty or making sons is derisive to women? How can this be derisive? I say if you think beauty is more important than virtue this is sexual objectifixation.
I saw topic here about a monk in Zew Nealand. I asked if this monk was Woke attacked? Is saying this Matugama Samyutta is Sutta quotes derisive to women another Woke attack? Why is Matugama Samyutta sutta quotes derisive to women? Why? Because it say women doing intoxicants & sexualy mimsocndut & shameless get angry go to hell?