This is NOT Buddha Teaching.
An arahant has wisdom to transcend the mind and body. Actually an arahant gain control with wisdom.
This is NOT Buddha Teaching.
Nibbana is not to stop rebirth.
Sounds reasonable.Konstantin Sol wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:28 am That is, it turns out that we should not and cannot do anything and initiate, but simply look at thoughts, wait for thoughts to appear, choose the right one from them and act in accordance with it, or get rid of unnecessary ones and not act. Is that what you wanted to say?
This is one of the reasons why we practice, recognising the past conditioning that created the present we see that we can in the present create better conditioning for the future, its insight/panna in action.Konstantin Sol wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:28 am And one more question. What does it mean? Can you tell me more?Causes and conditions dictate which cards you are dealt but you can choose how to play your hand, and learn to play our hand better in future.
Mind is mind. Without a mind, you don't experience anything. It is the reason we 'exist'.Konstantin Sol wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:11 amif you do not control the mind, then what is it?pegembara wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:51 pmThought created man, the thinker.Konstantin Sol wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:27 am And what, really thoughts appear only because of conditions? And man himself can not create a thought?
Without the activity of thinking, there are no thoughts or thinkers.
You can only realize this when thinking has stopped.
'You' then become 'witness' to the thinking process as it were and stop identifying with those thoughts!
If you are sharp enough, you also witness the arising of intentions, feelings, and many other things.
You don't control the mind. The mind controls you by making you think that you are in control.
right effort does not exist?.Dhammawuddho Thera.
Taming the mind. The untrained mind is wild and restless, like an untamed horse. It must be tamed before it can be useful. The Buddha compared the ordinary mind to six animals44 tied together and pulling each other in different directions. They must be tied to a pole to be harnessed and tamed. In the same way, we attach our mind to one single object of meditation instead of allowing the mind to aspire to the objects of the six senses. Over time, it will establish itself on the object of meditation. This is the only way to tame the mind and gain control over it.The Noble Eightfold Path
The Way to the End of Suffering
by Bhikkhu Bodhi
By applying these five methods with skill and discretion, the Buddha says, one becomes a master of all the pathways of thought. One is no longer the subject of the mind but its master. Whatever thought one wants to think, that one will think. Whatever thought one does not want to think, that one will not think. Even if unwholesome thoughts occasionally arise, one can dispel them immediately, just as quickly as a red-hot pan will turn to steam a few chance drops of water.
When this is, that is.
From the arising of this comes the arising of that.
When this isn't, that isn't.
From the cessation of this comes the cessation of that.
"This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications, the relinquishment of all acquisitions, the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Nibbana."
"Bhikkhus, there are these two Nibbana-elements. What are the two? The Nibbana-element with residue left and the Nibbana-element with no residue left.
"What, bhikkhus, is the Nibbana-element with residue left? Here a bhikkhu is an arahant, one whose taints are destroyed, the holy life fulfilled, who has done what had to be done, laid down the burden, attained the goal, destroyed the fetters of being, completely released through final knowledge. However, his five sense faculties remain unimpaired, by which he still experiences what is agreeable and disagreeable and feels pleasure and plain. It is the extinction of attachment, hate and delusion in him that is called the Nibbana-element with residue left.
"Now what, bhikkhus, is the Nibbana-element with no residue left? Here a bhikkhu is an arahant, one whose taints are destroyed, the holy life fulfilled, who has done what had to be done, laid down the burden, attained the goal, destroyed the fetters of being, completely released through final knowledge. For him, here in this very life, all this is experience, not being delighted in, will be extinguished. That, bhikkhus, is called the Nibbana-element with no residue left.
If we talk about the second, then apparently you meant that there is no absolute control, but there is an opportunity to manage and tame, which you already wrote earlier.Thought created man, the thinker.
Without the activity of thinking, there are no thoughts or thinkers.
You can only realize this when thinking has stopped.
'You' then become 'witness' to the thinking process as it were and stop identifying with those thoughts!
If you are sharp enough, you also witness the arising of intentions, feelings, and many other things.
You don't control the mind. The mind controls you by making you think that you are in control.
The body is not yours. It is 'given' to you by your parents just like your name was. And yet you can seemingly control and develop it to a certain degree.
It is the same thing with the mind. The mind was not born with the ability to do maths and write an essay but can be trained to do so.
The reason for aging, sickness, and death is birth. How are you supposed to stop them if you are still being born?
From birth as a requisite condition, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.htmlFrom the cessation of birth, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair all cease. Such is the cessation of this entire mass of stress & suffering."
I would say if understanding progresses that it becomes obvious that anger or malice is utterly momentary.Konstantin Sol wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:52 am And one more question. It is believed that dhammas are instantaneous, appearing and disappearing. But it is obvious in practice that, for example, anger or malice lasts for a long time, several minutes, and for someone, a day or longer. How to understand it?
TheBut it is owing to not keeping in mind, owing to non-penetration of what and owing to concealment by what that these characteristics do not appear? Firstly the characteristic of impermanence does not appear owing to not keeping in mind, not penetrating rise and fall owing to its being concealed by continuity (santati).
Just my 50 cents:
Wow.. very nice analysis indeed.
Well i know you will never know yet. Because you already say, you are still attached and kill.
Konstantin Sol wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:05 pm Good afternoon!
Please clarify. I read books about Buddhism, but a lot of incomprehensible.
It is obvious that it is necessary to work on the mind in the process of practice, to control it, all teachers write about this and many sutras (Noble Eightfold Path, awareness, effort, etc.).
Dhammawuddho Thera. Right Thoughts should also be cultivated to avoid unwholesome thoughts that often arise - for example, thoughts of malice, harm, greed. Right Views and Right Thoughts begin to counteract lust, anger, ignorance - the three vicious roots. To keep these three roots in check, you need to constantly observe your own thoughts and know the real motives that underlie our speech and our actionsDhammawuddho Thera. Knowing any sensible object, feeling automatically arises. Up to this point, we have no control, but starting from here, we can decide for ourselves how we should react. This is where the will comes into play and kamma (intentional action) is created.But how does this happen if there is no independent "I", the owner, the manager? Who develops the mind?Dhammawuddho Thera.
Taming the mind. The untrained mind is wild and restless, like an untamed horse. It must be tamed before it can be useful. The Buddha compared the ordinary mind to six animals44 tied together and pulling each other in different directions. They must be tied to a pole to be harnessed and tamed. In the same way, we attach our mind to one single object of meditation instead of allowing the mind to aspire to the objects of the six senses. Over time, it will establish itself on the object of meditation. This is the only way to tame the mind and gain control over it.
Also:But it is obvious that there are plans for life, they can be built. How does this happen? How does thinking, planning take place, mental constructs, without the "Self", the manager, the driver?Ajahn Brahm Years ago, I gave the "runaway bus" metaphor. It's like you're riding through life on a bus and having pleasant and unpleasant experiences. You think it's your fault; or you think the driver is at fault. “Why doesn’t the driver go to pleasant places and stay there for a long time? Why does he always go where the territory is unpleasant and stay there for a long time? You want to finally find the one who controls this journey called "my life". Why is it that you endure so much pain and suffering? You want to understand where is the driver, the driver of these five aggregates: body, feeling, perception, mentality and consciousness, the driver of you. After a lot of meditating and listening to the Dhamma, you finally get up to where the driver's seat is and it turns out to be empty!
It is also argued that the body is "not ours", not in our power, not under our control, thoughts are not under control. But it is obvious that we control the body and thoughts. We can act with the body, strengthen it. We can remember what we want, focus on the right thought, of our choice. How does it happen then?
Please tell me.
Good for you.
Citta (with cetasika) arise when a sensory object (ārammana) comes to the mind via five physical senses or the mind itself (with dhammā, with a long "a").Abhidhamma in practice.
Dr. N.K.G. mendis
Chitta, cetasiki and rupa are the conditioned dhammas. They arise due to conditions and disappear when the conditions cease to support them
What does it mean? Can anyone provide examples? What are the conditions?