Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:56 pm
Venerable Ṭhānissaro hasn't translated sañña as "discernment". He has translated paññā as "discernment". For sañña he uses "perception". Sañña is about recognising signs and features and matching that with memory. Sañña recognises first light and so we conceptualise "dawn".
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Discernment is Venerable Ṭhānissaro's choice of word for paññā. I think understanding or knowledge is more apt. Neither are about sañña.
Oh, now I understand what you were saying. My bad. Yes, I agree, wisdom means pañña, of course. In any case what I was saying is that to me sañña means discernament, distinction, differentiation. And that sañña and vinnana (and vedana) are conjoined.
Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:56 pm
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I don't really understand the neuroscience comment?
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I mean that many people think that vedana has to do with nerve stimulation. They think that vinnana has to do with not being dead and not being in a coma and not being an animal. And that sañña has to do with memory and concepts. To me, as I said vedana is the affection, the experience we get. Vinnana and sañña is that ability of noticing this affection, this experience, and differentiating it from what it is not.
Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:56 pm
... the perception of a skeleton... Sañña then recognises the signs and features of both "a skeleton" and "foul"...
The experience of foulness is of the unpleasant kind. This is what sañña distinguish, this unpleasant experience. This is what vinnana cognizes, this unpleasant experience.