Can you work off anantarika karma?

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Adam1234 wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:59 pm So what now?
The tears you have shed … crying & weeping from being joined with what is displeasing, being separated from what is pleasing — are greater than the water in the four great oceans.

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Mahabrahma wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:26 pm
Adam1234 wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:59 pm So what now?
https://www.nichirenlibrary.org/

Or

https://suttacentral.net/
I mean I wasn't without buddhist materials. I had hard copies of the digha nikaya, sumyutta nikaya, and the majjhima nikaya, among other books.
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Forget the past.

Plan for the future.

By making the present moment count.
That sage who has perfect insight,
at the summit of spiritual perfection:
that’s who I call a brahmin.

-Dhammapada.
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Adam1234 wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:56 pm
Coëmgenu wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:03 pm
Adam1234 wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:39 amNot to sound conceited, but I was probably more advanced than most here. Not in my knowledge of buddhism, but as a mystic and a yogi, yes. You would have had to have met me, and you would believe me. I was extraordinary. I sat lotus and ran around barefoot without electricity.
Vainglory.

:candle:

You have never had psychic powers in your youth. You were not a yogi. You were not a mystic. Whether you want to call it demons or mental illness, it is blocking your proper cognition. You didn't kill your mother with psychokinesis. Your soul didn't leave your body.

You should renounce these vainglorious untruths. You think you say them to not sound conceited, but all these claims are are manifestations of self-aggrandizing conceit and vanity.
So because I'm suffering, you just don't believe me? What if I had come to this forum before and explained my psychic powers? Would you believe me then?
You? Likely not, tbh. I doubt you've ever been completely sane on this forum. But only you can make the change.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
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Coëmgenu wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:44 pm
Adam1234 wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:56 pm
Coëmgenu wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:03 pm Vainglory.

:candle:

You have never had psychic powers in your youth. You were not a yogi. You were not a mystic. Whether you want to call it demons or mental illness, it is blocking your proper cognition. You didn't kill your mother with psychokinesis. Your soul didn't leave your body.

You should renounce these vainglorious untruths. You think you say them to not sound conceited, but all these claims are are manifestations of self-aggrandizing conceit and vanity.
So because I'm suffering, you just don't believe me? What if I had come to this forum before and explained my psychic powers? Would you believe me then?
You? Likely not, tbh. I doubt you've ever been completely sane on this forum. But only you can make the change.
Well everything I'm saying is right out of the suttras...seeing God's, remembering past lives, reading minds etc. I'm not telling you I went to Mordor, or saw Pete's dragon or something. And where other people need faith, I don't. I KNOW rebirth is true. I KNOW gods are real. And I've never thought I was a vampire. People used to address me as "yogi". I did things my yoga instructor couldn't do.

Not that it matters.
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Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:18 am And where other people need faith, I don't. I KNOW …
That’s your very problem
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cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:39 am
Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:18 am And where other people need faith, I don't. I KNOW …
That’s your very problem
If I was well, this conversation would be different. Few people had the psychic powers I had.
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Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:22 am Few people had the psychic powers I had.
You are talking about yourself in the past tense
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cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:29 am
Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:22 am Few people had the psychic powers I had.
You are talking about yourself in the past tense
I lost everything!
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Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:31 am I lost everything!
who would you be without your story?
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cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:36 am
Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:31 am I lost everything!
who would you be without your story?
You mean if I hadn't done this?

I'd be saying everything the same...but I'd still be doing it. I'd probably be meditating a lot more, as this forum is encouraging. I'd still be walking everywhere, would still have an impeccable diet, still wouldn't have electricity, would be doing yoga, working at UPS, sitting in the sauna, taking vacations to the east coast.
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Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:40 am You mean if I hadn't done this?
The story is never ending


Nirvana is the end
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cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:45 am
Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:40 am You mean if I hadn't done this?
The story is never ending


Nirvana is the end
Suppose I emitted a force, but thought it was just a thought. What then?
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cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:04 am
Adam1234 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:02 am Suppose I emitted a force, but thought it was just a thought. What then?
Suppose you pushed the Moon into the Sun
Let's say just hypothetically...what would be the outcome?
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