These are concrete assertions, so let's begin here. There are many points here. Are these actually found in the Vinaya as stated?Johann wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:53 am The Sublime Buddha took measures to prevent for dangers by:
* Giving Dhamma in improper flow: disrespect (not leaving stand/home)
* Giving away of what's the possession of the Sangha (down fall)
* Making a living by teaching and favors (corruption)
* Teaching other then Bhikkhus to detail remember, access Dhamma, causing disrespect.
* Bringing Gifts toward the Gems to destruction: sharing given to lay people, outsider.
* Changing the teachings (common creativity)
* No formal relation toward householder, improper dependency
* Teaching Vinaya before ordaining
* Teaching recitation to non-Bhikkhus
* Giving over Bhikkhu Sanghas possession to Bhikkhunis, independency from getting taught, introduced, by the Bhikkhus...
Let's focus on a single point. "Teaching Vinaya before ordaining". Is that actually a rule in the Vinaya, or is it just Commentary? Is it stated clearly as a rule, or is that just an interpretation?
A precise rather than a long response would be appreciated.
Thanks.