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According to Wikipedia, Nagasena of the Milinda Pañha was a Sarvastivadan Buddhist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasena
Is that true?
If so, why is Milinda Pañha a Theravadan text?
Was Theravada Sarvastivadanised?
Metta,
Paul.
So what's the go with Nagasena?
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So what's the go with Nagasena?
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Re: So what's the go with Nagasena?
He likely came from a time before the two schools had fully separated, thus belonging to both. Some of the things he said are Sarvāstivādin in nature such as space being unconditioned. Whilst certainly very old, the academic view is that the Milinda Pañha has also been added to over time.retrofuturist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:27 pm Greetings,
According to Wikipedia, Nagasena of the Milinda Pañha was a Sarvastivadan Buddhist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasena
Is that true?
If so, why is Milinda Pañha a Theravadan text?
Was Theravada Sarvastivadanised?
Metta,
Paul.
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
Re: So what's the go with Nagasena?
Yes, I always had a problem with this.Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:55 pmHe likely came from a time before the two schools had fully separated, thus belonging to both. Some of the things he said are Sarvāstivādin in nature such as space being unconditioned. Whilst certainly very old, the academic view is that the Milinda Pañha has also been added to over time.retrofuturist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:27 pm Greetings,
According to Wikipedia, Nagasena of the Milinda Pañha was a Sarvastivadan Buddhist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasena
Is that true?
If so, why is Milinda Pañha a Theravadan text?
Was Theravada Sarvastivadanised?
Metta,
Paul.
I even ask this question in Dhamma Wheel but did not receive an answer. Can't find the post.
My question was why we do not attain Akasa instead of Nibbana.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: So what's the go with Nagasena?
Space is impermanent according to Buddhism. Space here being your internal space. Regarding the external space, well that's a bit trickier. In modern physics space has a beginning. Harder to say it will ever end. I have read that according to the Big Rip theory, even spactime will eventually be torn apart in the far, far, far x1000000000000000000 future.SarathW wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:27 pmYes, I always had a problem with this.Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:55 pmHe likely came from a time before the two schools had fully separated, thus belonging to both. Some of the things he said are Sarvāstivādin in nature such as space being unconditioned. Whilst certainly very old, the academic view is that the Milinda Pañha has also been added to over time.retrofuturist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:27 pm Greetings,
According to Wikipedia, Nagasena of the Milinda Pañha was a Sarvastivadan Buddhist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasena
Is that true?
If so, why is Milinda Pañha a Theravadan text?
Was Theravada Sarvastivadanised?
Metta,
Paul.
I even ask this question in Dhamma Wheel but did not receive an answer. Can't find the post.
My question was why we do not attain Akasa instead of Nibbana.
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
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Re: So what's the go with Nagasena?
Infinite space is a heavenly realm
Re: So what's the go with Nagasena?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: So what's the go with Nagasena?
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The purest when it comes to tradition might be Mulasarvastivada. Except in a few cases the text or the doctrine in the Samyukta agama suttas is not muddled, although occasionally the Pali translations are. But the last is not really relevant to your question.
Regards
I have read that it is true, the reason given was that the original Sanskrit version of Milinda Panha was lost. And from the Chinese version available it was translated to Pali. Since the text was in Pali, Theravadins thought it was Theravada? Possible?According to Wikipedia, Nagasena of the Milinda Pañha was a Sarvastivadan Buddhist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasena
Is that true?
It is not really a Theravada text originally.If so, why is Milinda Pañha a Theravadan text?
Probably each tradition borrowed from each other. Some Sarvastivada may have have got Thravadanised. The monks lived in close quarters.Was Theravada Sarvastivadanised?
The purest when it comes to tradition might be Mulasarvastivada. Except in a few cases the text or the doctrine in the Samyukta agama suttas is not muddled, although occasionally the Pali translations are. But the last is not really relevant to your question.
Regards