i now get it, what non-action means. It means there is no doer, you enter a mind state(perhaps access concertation) and from there know what would constitute as action and what not, and then try shuffle through mental images what would bring forth the dhamma turning action resulting in jhana.https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-kd6/en/brahmali?layout=sidebyside&reference=none¬es=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin wrote:“But Sīha, why visit the ascetic Gotama who believes that actions don’t have results when you believe that they do?
“Kiṁ pana tvaṁ, sīha, kiriyavādo samāno akiriyavādaṁ samaṇaṁ gotamaṁ dassanāya upasaṅkamissasi?
For the ascetic Gotama believes in inaction, teaches that, and trains his disciples in that.”
Samaṇo hi, sīha, gotamo akiriyavādo akiriyāya dhammaṁ deseti, tena ca sāvake vinetī”ti.
Just a random thought:
It's possible that the Jains were anti-jhana.
https://suttacentral.net/sn41.8/en/sujato?layout=sidebyside&reference=none¬es=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin wrote: When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side. Nigaṇṭha Nātaputta said to him,
Sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinnaṁ kho cittaṁ gahapatiṁ nigaṇṭho nāṭaputto etadavoca:
“Householder, do you have faith in the ascetic Gotama’s claim that
“saddahasi tvaṁ, gahapati, samaṇassa gotamassa—
there is a state of immersion without placing the mind and keeping it connected; that there is the cessation of placing the mind and keeping it connected?”
atthi avitakko avicāro samādhi, atthi vitakkavicārānaṁ nirodho”ti?