Is nirvana escaping samsara or becoming one with samsara itself?

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samsarayoga wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:51 pm Is it not that you imagine to escape reality?
Tolkien imagined to escape reality
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samsarayoga wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:51 pm How is samsara not the master if it tortures you every moment your entire life yet there's nothing you could do about it?
I think people need to be abused until they leave


(Leave Saṃsāra)
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cappuccino wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:48 pm
Tolkien imagined to escape reality
Was he a pedophile?
reality is not shaped by your mind, if this was the case there won't exist right view and wrong view to begin with (doh)
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samsarayoga wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:51 pm Was he a pedophile?
No…
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cappuccino wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:50 pm
I think people need to be abused until they leave


(Leave relationships or leave Saṃsāra)


Otherwise they will persist
But samsara also has so much to offer. If you could buy a luxury home in LA, would you want to leave samsara? The Buddha was a prince but gave all that up to live in the forest all alone with tigers, snakes and giant spiders.
cappuccino wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:51 pm
No…
How do you know? Because the news said so?
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samsarayoga wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:57 pm But samsara also has so much to offer.
Traps have so much to offer

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cappuccino wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:00 pm
Traps have so much to offer

:shrug:
If you were rich, would you donate all of your money and live somewhere in a cabin off-grid? Note that the Buddha didn't even had a log cabin. Which would be a form of luxury and hinder his little suffering simulation.

Note: you could donate $1 million to your wife and children. Is $1 million a lot of money?
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samsarayoga wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:12 pm Is $1 million a lot of money?
The best things in life are free
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cappuccino wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:13 pm
The best things in life are free
You didn't answer any of my questions
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samsarayoga wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:16 pm You didn't answer any of my questions
Buddha was sitting peacefully at the edge of a forest in bliss


You can’t afford to do that
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cappuccino wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:19 pm
Buddha was sitting peacefully at the edge of a forest in bliss


You can’t afford to do that
Dude, stop acting like you're mister Miyagi. I studied the suttas. I know the Bhadiya Kaligoda sutta. I know the dangling sword. You're obnoxious.
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samsarayoga wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:21 pm Dude, stop acting like you're mister Miyagi.
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samsarayoga wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:21 pm
cappuccino wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:19 pm
Buddha was sitting peacefully at the edge of a forest in bliss


You can’t afford to do that
Dude, stop acting like you're mister Miyagi. I studied the suttas. I know the Bhadiya Kaligoda sutta. I know the dangling sword. You're obnoxious.
Who are you to ask cappuccino to change, you insubordinate?

Cappuccino speaks short. He speaks to the point. He does not vacillate with long, protracted speeches.


And he has been the SAME WAY for as long as I remember. He is not obnoxious. He is humble and driven by compassion.

As for your Hollywood mansion? Perhaps you are young? Perhaps you have watched Dan Balzerian and now think there is pleasures to be gained in riches.

😝 you will never attain such riches. Such women. Such assets.

All the better for you. Happiness is not found in that. Happiness is found in a simple life - one that allows you to live the Buddha’s teaching.
Like the three marks of conditioned existence, this world in itself is filthy, hostile, and crowded
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:)
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Neither, nor. It is seeing samsara for what it really is.
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