What is the root cause of killing -attachment, aversion, or ignorance?

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wenjaforever
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Re: What is the root cause of killing -attachment, aversion, or ignorance?

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thepea wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:46 pm
The mind we carry at the time of taking actions is what matters. Killing is a part of living.

Agree if Nibanna or jhana is ones goal, avoid killing as it’s unsuitable activity for samma samadhi, as is chess.
If you want jhana or Nibanna, then give up playing chess for the duration.
No I'm not interested in nibana
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Re: What is the root cause of killing -attachment, aversion, or ignorance?

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2600htz wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:02 pm Hi:

Any root cause of the unwholesome can be a cause for killing.

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Yes, I found this answer elsewhere too.
Attachment: Say you kill someone to protect your homeland. People kill their pets as they are suffering from an illness
Aversion: You kill someone due to jealousy or anger
Ignorance: Not believing Kamma Vipaka people kill too. For instance, the executioner or a hitman kills due to ignorance.

However, I feel that anger directly or indirectly is the root cause of all killing.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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Re: What is the root cause of killing -attachment, aversion, or ignorance?

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wenjaforever wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:48 pm
thepea wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:46 pm
The mind we carry at the time of taking actions is what matters. Killing is a part of living.

Agree if Nibanna or jhana is ones goal, avoid killing as it’s unsuitable activity for samma samadhi, as is chess.
If you want jhana or Nibanna, then give up playing chess for the duration.
No I'm not interested in nibana
Killing is not suitable for jhana cultivation either.
wenjaforever
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Re: What is the root cause of killing -attachment, aversion, or ignorance?

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thepea wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:59 pm
Killing is not suitable for jhana cultivation either.
We already know that. What's your point?
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