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The sutta probably only takes 3 minutes to read,
but it's one you should probably revisit frequently until you really get it.
I've translated it in a way it should be much easier to grasp the important points that no one ever talks about.
A new fluent translation of SN 47.4 Sāla, one of the most important suttas on satipaṭṭhāna
A new fluent translation of SN 47.4 Sāla, one of the most important suttas on satipaṭṭhāna
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Re: A new fluent translation of SN 47.4 Sāla, one of the most important suttas on satipaṭṭhāna
Well.. did you search the term “acirapabbajitā adhunāgatā”?
There are more to it. You can’t just run with it just reading 1 sutta. There are total of 5 sutta that mentioned this term.
In MN 67, buddha clearly said that
Surely a puthujjana can’t teach satipatthana because they don’t have right view. Even a sekha (below non returner) will have difficulty to teach because the samadhi hasn’t been fully developed.
Are you saying a new comer can just practice satipatthana without hearing/learning from the sekha or asekha? That is just impossible as well.
If you look at SN 47.4, do you know who Buddha ask mendicants to supported the new comer? These mendicant needs to be an expert in satipatthana for sure. I would imagine at least non returner or above due to samadhi (of course an arahant is better).
Can’t be a new comer learn from new comer. It is just illogical.
There are more to it. You can’t just run with it just reading 1 sutta. There are total of 5 sutta that mentioned this term.
In MN 67, buddha clearly said that
. That mean at least an arahant can lead.For either, I should lead the mendicant Saṅgha, or else Sāriputta and Moggallāna.”
Surely a puthujjana can’t teach satipatthana because they don’t have right view. Even a sekha (below non returner) will have difficulty to teach because the samadhi hasn’t been fully developed.
Are you saying a new comer can just practice satipatthana without hearing/learning from the sekha or asekha? That is just impossible as well.
If you look at SN 47.4, do you know who Buddha ask mendicants to supported the new comer? These mendicant needs to be an expert in satipatthana for sure. I would imagine at least non returner or above due to samadhi (of course an arahant is better).
Can’t be a new comer learn from new comer. It is just illogical.
SN 47.4 wrote:There the Buddha addressed the mendicants:
“Mendicants, those mendicants who are junior—recently gone forth, newly come to this teaching and training—should be encouraged, supported, and established in the four kinds of mindfulness meditation.
Re: A new fluent translation of SN 47.4 Sāla, one of the most important suttas on satipaṭṭhāna
What are you going on about?
Where in my translation does it make you think it says an unqualified teacher is teaching new monks?
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www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages
www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages