Citta Trust wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:12 am
Its based on the average intellectual interpretation of something beyond interpretation and even imagination...
If it is something beyond interpretation or imagination how would we even know if it was staring us in the face?
I think we can confirm that AI can never become a Buddha haha
On the basis of average intellectual interpretation, I don’t think such a confirmation can be made.
I think AI should have included some resemblance of the lower realms (Apaya) in the drawings, for nibbana is equally unconditioned by them.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"
Citta Trust wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:12 am
Its based on the average intellectual interpretation of something beyond interpretation and even imagination...
If it is something beyond interpretation or imagination how would we even know if it was staring us in the face?
By reaching the unconditioned.
I think we can confirm that AI can never become a Buddha haha
On the basis of average intellectual interpretation, I don’t think such a confirmation can be made.
….. because AI doesn’t have consciousness / awareness….. therefore can’t be released from samsara!
You can't discern Nibbana through the five senses or through thought or intellectualization.
It can only be known directly through mind, a mode of consciousness that apprehends it.
"Therein monks, that Dimension should be known wherein the eye ceases and the perception of forms fades away...the ear... the nose...the tongue... the body ceases and the perception of touch fades away...
That Dimension should be known wherein mentality ceases and the perception of mind-objects fades away.
That Dimension should be known; that Dimension should be known."
Body there means either the namakaya (the mind), which is the traditional interpretation, or it means “personally” with “kaya” there being an idiom which is the view of Sujato and others. I think it meaning the literal physical body is unlikely. How can one physically touch nibbana? Doesn’t make sense.
Citta Trust wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:12 am
Its based on the average intellectual interpretation of something beyond interpretation and even imagination...
If it is something beyond interpretation or imagination how would we even know if it was staring us in the face?
I think we can confirm that AI can never become a Buddha haha
On the basis of average intellectual interpretation, I don’t think such a confirmation can be made.
By experiencing Nibanna for ourselves...
Anyone who has tasted it KNOWS beyond any measure that this is ludicrous...
This is more in line with what the average "none buddhist" would think of Nirvana as.. or maybe some Mahyana practisioner who also, doesnt have much of an idea what actual Nibanna is...
It is the unconditioned... that is pretty much as far as we can go in describing it in "positive" terms
It is the Unformed, the Unconditioned, the End,
the Truth, the Other Shore, the Subtle,
the Everlasting, the Invisible, the Undiversified,
Peace, the Deathless, the Blest, Safety,
the Wonderful, the Marvellous,
Nibbæna, Purity, Freedom,
the Island,
the Refuge, the Beyond.
~ S 43.1-44
It is the Unformed, the Unconditioned, the End,
the Truth, the Other Shore, the Subtle,
the Everlasting, the Invisible, the Undiversified,
Peace, the Deathless, the Blest, Safety,
the Wonderful, the Marvellous,
Nibbæna, Purity, Freedom,
the Island,
the Refuge, the Beyond.
~ S 43.1-44
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It is such a beautiful description, why we would ever need or want AI to draw the above is beyond me.. as even the abive is only words to describe something beyond our own undedstsnding of those words.
It is the Unformed, the Unconditioned, the End,
the Truth, the Other Shore, the Subtle,
the Everlasting, the Invisible, the Undiversified,
Peace, the Deathless, the Blest, Safety,
the Wonderful, the Marvellous,
Nibbæna, Purity, Freedom,
the Island,
the Refuge, the Beyond.
~ S 43.1-44
It is such a beautiful description, why we would ever need or want AI to draw the above is beyond me.. as even the abive is only words to describe something beyond our own undedstsnding of those words.
One description has as much potential for pointing to something beyond our own understanding as the other. Whatever stimulates and inspires the imagination is welcomed.