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How are the four great elements perceived in taste(jivha)?
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 6:13 pm
by Dhammapardon
Hello,
When I try to examine through the four great elements in taste-consciousness(jivha-vinnana), it all becomes body(kaya). One wouldn't call pressure on the eyeball or hot and cold on the eyeball same as eye sight. Where are the four elements in taste(jivha)?
Is spicy food fire element?

Re: How are the four great elements perceived in taste(jivha)?
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 2:30 am
by pegembara
When swallowing the saliva, you notice the hardness of 'the teeth'(earth), the wetness of 'the saliva'(water), the movements of the tongue, and throat(air), and the warmth of the mouth(heat). These are sensations of the 'body' in and of itself.
Smells and tastes don't seem to be part of the 'body' and don't fall under the category imo.
Just as sights and sounds are not.
Spicy food is 'external' to the 'body' and also not under the elements.
Re: How are the four great elements perceived in taste(jivha)?
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 6:07 am
by Dhammapardon
pegembara wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 2:30 am
When swallowing the saliva, you notice the hardness of 'the teeth'(earth), the wetness of 'the saliva'(water), the movements of the tongue, and throat(air), and the warmth of the mouth(heat). These are sensations of the 'body' in and of itself.
Smells and tastes don't seem to be part of the 'body' and don't fall under the category imo.
Just as sights and sounds are not.
Spicy food is 'external' to the 'body' and also not under the elements.
Its interesting. I got so used to looking at the body through the sense basis it didn't occur to me they could be largely overlapping but different concepts. Very helpful observation, thanks.