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the great vegetarian debate
Re: the great vegetarian debate
I would not declare an arena of ignorants as "part of" my awareness.
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Re: the great vegetarian debate
Black, white, grey
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Well there goes 99% of the world.
Edit to add: that’s what makes the scientific method excel. It constantly removes ignorance and replaces it with real science. It is a never ending tale of we didn’t know this but and it may conflict with previous understandings.
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We make a great tag team Cappy you go guy!
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I think the Bible (not a reliable dictionary but still) says “I give you every seed bearing herb and fruit of the field for your meat.”Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:07 pmWhat you are is "simply" wrong, for the reasons argued above. It doesn't matter whether you feel like I feel like you're "forcing me to" or not.
This would take the origin back 2000+ yrs.
Oxford dictionary confirms this also.
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Those in the know, know it’s a cube.
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The King James Bible is not in contemporary English. It is in what is called "Jacobean English." If it even says that, you are still using an antiquarian definition and it is still an etymological fallacy to suggest that "meat" simply means "food" in modern English.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
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I can't even find that translation. Did you go looking for something as obscure as the Douay–Rheims? That's in even older English.
You seem to be paraphrasing Genesis 1:29.
Edit: It is the Douay–Rheims.
Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat
This English is from the 1500s.
You seem to be paraphrasing Genesis 1:29.
Edit: It is the Douay–Rheims.
Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat
This English is from the 1500s.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Re: the great vegetarian debate
I am looking thru Youngs Literal ...Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:18 pm I can't even find that translation. Did you go looking for something as obscure as the Douay–Rheims? That's in even older English.
You seem to be paraphrasing Genesis 1:29.
Edit: It is the Douay–Rheims.
Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat
This English is from the 1500s.
says food
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Buddha dhamma we are told is 2500 yrs old. What is the issue? I continually speak to you all of language corruption.Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:18 pm I can't even find that translation. Did you go looking for something as obscure as the Douay–Rheims? That's in even older English.
You seem to be paraphrasing Genesis 1:29.
Edit: It is the Douay–Rheims.
Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat
This English is from the 1500s.
Formal language is hidden and society is being turned in ignorant commoners speaking slangs to one another in confusion.
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Look at it this way: you speak modern contemporary English.
If I invited you to a BBQ and said that I was grilling "meat," and when you got there you saw that I only had asparagi on the grill, you wouldn't have assumed that by "meat" I meant "plants." Using "meat" for "any food" is archaic English.
Even Google's dictionary notes that the usage is "archaic."
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
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Re: What is the Buddhist view of abortion?
Yes, these seem like similar situations to me.
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Re: What is the Buddhist view of abortion?
So a Buddhist cant buy the live lobsters the guy is selling directly from his boat. But he can buy them cooked in the store an hour later.DNS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:44 pmApparently, the mother would still bear some responsibility, according to buddhism:
Five factors are necessary to fulfil the offence of killing living beings (pāṇātipāta).
Notice #4 above, a verbal or physical effort must be made, which a pregnant woman does, when she gives the okay to the doctor to do the procedure. Therefore, even if not done by your hand, but by an order, then there is still kammic responsibility for the killing.1. It is a living being.
2. One must know that it is a living being.
3. There must be the intention to kill.
4. A verbal or physical effort must be made to kill that being.
5. The living being must die due to that effort.
http://www.aimwell.org/problems.html
Correct?
Re: What is the Buddhist view of abortion?
I see it says the Buddha allowed monks to eat fish meat and eggs provided they had not heard it was killed for them.
Condone seem the question today with this.
So these monastics in buddhas time were travelling with the beggars bowl perhaps unannounced and hold out a bowl and you get what you get, eat yum, burp, go jhana.
But now we have villagers bringing the food directly to the monks and nuns, and they bring these items specifically prepared for them.
Is this not condoning the killing?